Yesterday, the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (which covers Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio and Tennessee) announced a decision that upholds state bans on gay marriage. This is significant because we now have what's called a circuit split on the issue of gay marriage. A circuit split is when different circuit courts ruled differently on the same legal issue, setting up a potential review by the U.S. Supreme Court.
You may recall that the U.S. Supreme Court denied certiorari last month on a number of cases involving same-sex marriage from other circuits. The difference, however, is that those cases all involved judicial decisions striking down state bans on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional.
It remains to be seen if the high court will get involved, but many legal observers believe that it will.
The Sixth Circuit decision was a 2-1 vote. You can read the decision by clicking here.
It's long, but telling. The majority suggest that the issue of gay marriage should be decided through the democratic process (i.e., not by courts), while the dissent argues that bans on same-sex marriage violate the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. If you do take a look at the opinions, be sure to read to the last paragraph of the dissent in which Circuit Judge Martha Craig Daughtrey suggests strongly that the majority judges are failing their oaths.
Take a look at Lyle Denniston's legal analysis of this issue at scotusblog.com: http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/11/analysis-paths-to-same-sex-marriage-review/
Then, return here and comment on what you think about this issue. If the Supreme Court reviews same-sex marriage, how do you think they will rule and why? Is the legalization of same-sex marriage nationwide an inevitable outcome, or will states be allowed to ban it by popular will?
Please remember to include your first name and last name initial, plus what class you're in (MW, TTh or Online).
And, let me also remind you that this is a sensitive topic in which reasonable people may disagree. Please be thoughtful and mindful of those with which you may disagree.
103 comments:
It's inevitable that the Supreme Court will rule on this issue in the near future. I think they'll legalize gay marriage. While I'm sure some of the justices won't personally agree with gay marriage, "it's not the Supreme Courts job to impose a moral code.It's to allow justice for all." We may all not agree on the issue, but gay couples aren't being given "justice" if they are being denied the same rights that straight couples have.
Tyler Stevenson T/TH
I think the Supreme Court will eventually legalize gay marriage. Our country is quickly growing to support the LGBT community, so limiting their freedom is practically denying their rights and creating inequality. Everyone's rights should be the same, not limited or determined by personal opinion. Although not everyone may agree with the issue of same-sex marriage, I feel that it's a topic that deserves to be recognized because it's going to continue becoming a universal topic until those individuals achieve justice for all.
Chanell Heeter, TTH
I believe the Supreme Court will grant certiorari to the new case involving same sex marriage. The make-up of the court will, I am sure, cause it to be a very close decision. However, I think that the argument for the rights of personal liberty and a pursuit of happiness are likely to trump the opposition's argument that same-sex marriage should be an issue that is left up to each states individual discretion. No matter which way the court might lean on this issue, it has become inevitable that the justice system will require the supreme court to weigh in on the issue at hand.
Hamilton (Taylor) Hutsler
M/W 3:30-4:50
Jessica Fleet, ONLINE
I certainly think the Supreme Court will be weighing in on this matter sooner rather than later. I also believe that it will be found that such bans will be lifted nationwide, as it is not the law's prerogative to impose a structured moral code. I personally hope that American marriage equality is seen in the near future.
I think that the Supreme Court will legalize same sex marriage soon. Our world is becoming more acceptable of this topic. If not legalized nationally I think it will end up being a decision of the state.
Karlee Quibodeaux ONLINE
I definitely think that the Supreme Court will hear the case. It's inevitable since many states are already allowing gay marriage and civil unions, and this ruling has disrupted the general consensus of states. Like someone else commented, the makeup of the court will make it a close vote, but the USSC will probably allow gay marriage because of the overall feeling of the people of the US. Gay marriage has gained much more acceptance in society in recent years and I think, and hope, the court will reflect that acceptance in the law.
Sarah P.
M/W
If the Supreme Court reviews same-sex marriage anytime soon, I believe they will not legalize it nationwide. I think it is too early to hope for such an outcome. Overtime, I believe the American people will lighten up about this issue. Maybe in a few more years the USSC will legalize same-sex marriage for all states; but, again, I believe it is too early to hope for this.
Justin Stephens, Online
Same sex marriage is still a controversial topic with some people, but in reality, I know more people who accept that anyone can marry whoever they want as long as it does not bother them. I have not personally come across someone who believes strongly that same sex marriage should not be allowed.
Hopefully with time, everyone will realize that love is love and that people who fall in love, tend to want to get married. Regardless of sex, I think everyone should have that right.
Maira Rodriguez ONLINE.
I believe the USSC will feel like it has no choice but to hear the cases regarding same sex marriage. With the way things are changing culturally, I believe it is inevitable but to do so. I think that they will eventually rule to legalize gay marriage using the same terminology as Sandra Day O’Connor that it is not the Supreme Court’s job to impose a moral code, even if they don’t personally agree to it themselves. They have a duty to protect the American people and do what is in the best interest. Denying gay couples the same civil liberties that straight couples have goes against this. So, while not all of the justices might agree personally with the legalization of gay marriage, I think they will have no choice (or at least a majority of them) but to vote to legalize it.
Amber L. TTH
I think the Supreme Court will legalize same sex marriage. I don't see this happening anytime soon because there are still many Americans who do not want to see same sex marriage legalized.So it may be that individual states have the choice to decide on same sex marriage. For example, I think Texas will be one of the last states to allow same sex marriage, unfortunately. But for certain states that are more liberal, I think same sex marriage will be passed with no problem. I think this issue needs to be resolved, same sex couples have the right to get married and it is sad that our country is in such dispute over this topic. It's i
Sara Blackman TTH
I think the Supreme Court will hear the case very soon. With the difference in decisions by the circuit courts, I think it's the Supreme Courts duty to hear the case. I think the vote will be very close, but the legalization of gay marriage is inevitable in the near future.
I believe that the Supreme Court will be seeing this case very soon. It is a very touchy subject and people's views range broadly apart. Because of this, I believe that this will be a very close vote as well. The conservative judges will probably have the hardest time deciding, but America was created off personal freedom. With that, I think that they will legalize gay marriage. States probably will not be allowed to choose what they want for this seems to be an inevitable decision as time goes on.
Haley W. T/TH
I think soon enough the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage. It's kind of like what we discussed in class, back in the day gay marriage was really frowned upon, but as time goes on, views and opinions change and I think it will change with the Supreme Court. I think that everyone should have 'equal' rights and I think that soon the Supreme Court will see that gay marriage is not a 'big deal.'
Sara Shields
T/Th 2:00
The Supreme court will inevitably legalize same-sex marriage nationwide. It will not be in the near future, but it will happen. We are already seeing states one-by-one recognize these unions. I do agree that the democratic process should determine the outcome of same-sex marriages, and not by the courts. Ultimately, it is the choice of individuals who they marry and not the governments. There are bigger problems in our government that need to be focused on, rather than who marries who.
Ashley B., Online
What bothers me the most about this article is the foundation that America is built on. Aren't we supposed to be a FREE country? America is the country where people come to do wonderful things that they couldn't do elsewhere; so why would LOVE be limited? So not only is the battle of gay marriage limited to some select states, the supreme court now questions whether the marriage can legally transfer? OFCOURSE IT SHOULD! marriage is marriage; a DOCUMENT. I really hope that the supreme court rules this in the favor of homosexuals and I think they will. Even if they don't agree with it, the gay community is large and powerful and they would certainly rebel against the supreme court if it got this extreme.
I strongly believe that the Supreme Court will rule for a non-ban on gay marriage because it violates the 1st amendment. Knowing that there are states that have allowed gay marriage, I believe that this may benefit the Supreme Court's decision.
As much as I would love to believe that same sex marriage is an inevitable outcome, ultimately and unfortunately I feel the decision always comes down to popular vote because decisions are usually a majority rule.
Olympia Mendoza M,W
I think it's only a matter of time before the USSC hears a case on same sex marriage because of the popularity of the issue is in society today. Especially now that a circuit court has banned same sex marriage, when most states who have laws about the topic are allowing it. Whenever the USSC hears the court, I think they will decide that same sex marriage is constitutional because not allowing it would most likely go against a person's freedoms and personal rights. Much like Sandra Day O'Connor's opinion in the previously talked about case, I think most justices may not agree with it, but they will pass it to uphold their duties to give us all as citizens the freedom to do so if we wish to. I personally think it should be legal, I think if two people want to be married, so be it. It is between those two people and those two people only. We have come a long way since the 1900's where interracial marriages were illegal and now I think this is just one more type of marriage ban that will eventually be overturned as well.
Lisa Ghera T/TH
I think the USSC will see the case soon. I also believe they will legalize same-sex marriage. The times are changing and people becoming more acceptable each day. Some people may not agree because their religious but we are all equal. The justice's decision will to be equal to all not by their personal beliefs.
Amanda L. T/TH
I think the Supreme Court will rule to legalize gay marriage. Because slowly, but surely, states are making the move to legalize it because the support is growing in the younger generations who will be running the country, in just a few short years.
Vicky S.
T/TH
I definitely think that the supreme court will weigh in on this issue and sooner or later declare sam sex marriage legal in the US. For similar reasons as to why we have freedom of religion, peoples' choice of who they want to marry, though disagreed with by many, should ultimately be up to them.
Darion R. - online
I think that the Supreme Court will certainly grant certiorari on the issue of gay marriage and decide that it should be legal. Although some people may feel that the state bans on gay marriage should be upheld, I don't think it is enough to deny same-sex couples their rights as American citizens. Eventually, nationwide legalization of same-sex marriage is inevitable.
Shelby S.
MW
I do believe that the Supreme Court will hear this case, as this social issue is escalating to great measures all across the country. Our society and social freedoms are altogether adapting to LGBT support within the marketplace, business archive and social realm. As more and more civilians are accepting of the LGBT community, our country is quickly growing to support equality for all. After all, that is what the United States stands for. Within our Constitution, we are granted equal rights and personal liberty. To deny an individual these rights based on their sexuality contradicts the freedoms that our country has long fought for. I think they will, and if not, should legalize gay marriage. The USSC court holds a duty to provide justice for all. Although individuals on the court may personally have contradicting views, the right thing to do is legalize same-sex marriage. The LGBT community will not stop fighting until they receive equal civil liberties. This will be an ongoing issue as long as the US government allows it. -Michele P. T/TH
I think the Supreme Court needs to hear the case especially since a lot has changed since the last time. The people are constantly changing and becoming more understanding and learning to accept the fact that some people are just born or want to be LGBT.
So, I believe the Supreme Court will rule to legalize gay marriage because it is the right thing to do to protect the people. By not giving them a choice, it is wrong. It is an inevitable outcome because as time goes by we can't keep denying these people of their rights as American citizens.
Kristie Nakamura ONLINE
I believe that the Supreme Court will hear this case eventually. This argument has been going on for such a long time and I think sooner or later the USSC is going to have to do something about it. More and more people are in support of gay marriage every year and I believe that same sex marriage will be allowed in the near future because there is just a constant growth of support for it with each generation. -Kathryn Bordini ONLINE
I think it is extremely unlikely that this issue of same marriage could not pass eventually. This topic is becoming an overwhelming issue that will soon be seen as not as important as others and therefore will not be as big of an issue. With the amount of same sex individuals in the US today, it would be ridiculous to keep this as an actual priority. The government just needs to stay out of individuals lives and look at the big picture of things.
Leighton Choate -- T/TH
I think the ban on same-sex marriage is a modern-day Civil Rights battle. There are two main reasons (in my opinion) that people have an issue with same-sex marriage. The first reason is that it's against the Bible. However, America is founded on the ideas of separating Church and State so it seems silly and ironic to ban something because of religious beliefs. The second reason is because people "don't want to see" gay couples interacting. Personally, I don't even want to see heterosexual couples kissing in public, so I feel this point is also silly. I think the USSC will grant ceratori on this situation sooner than later now that higher courts have ruled differently on the issue. I also think they will vote that the ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional and people will be able to marry whatever person they want.
Hannah Cramer T/Th
I believe we will see this go to the supreme court and it will pass. This is very comparable to what our country experienced during the civil rights era years and years ago. As I respect the seperation of church and state and what our country was founded on i also think it needs to be recognized that religions do not by any means have to support or comform to modern day society if thats not what they were orgnially founded upon.
Rebecca (Becca) Roberts T/Th
I think the Supreme Court will likely rule gay marriage constitutional, even if for no other reason than the domino effect we're seeing in states allowing it. If the generation in power now is growing to allow it, the ones after will. History's told us that liberty prevails.
David H.
Online
I feel like this is an issue that is similar to abortion as gay marriage is such a polarizing item to some people. I believe that one Justice may sway the vote for or against gay marriage and that the case will be similar to Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey in 1992. I think that the Justices will be looking at that case due to Justice O'Connor's statement that although she is personally against abortions, the duty of the court is to uphold justice for everyone and not impose their own moral code.
Chris H. TTh
I think gay marriage will pass in the Supreme Court. This has been such a controversial issue in the past and as our generation progresses I think society has become more accepting of the idea than societies in the past. I think we will be seeing this change soon.
Rachel S.
T/TH
I believe Supreme Court will eventually legalize same-sex marriage nationwide; however, unfortunately, I don't see it happening anytime soon. I feel that they will keep it at a state's right. Times are changing. Women had to fight hard for their rights, and now look where women are. Even though women have not fully reached the same equal level as men, as women are paid less, more and more women are becoming CEO's. Same-sex couples are fighting for their rights, and I believe they deserve equality as well. I see how some people see this as a religious issue, but how does it affect the lives of those complaining.
Jacqueline D. Online
In due time the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage but i think it will take some time. We live in a world where same sex marriage is coming more common and the Supreme Court is taking notice. I honestly think there are bigger problems in the world than same sex marriage fights but it will become legalized in about 30 years i believe and anybody will be able to marry anybody or anything.
Chris Cesario
T/TH
I do believe that eventually the USSC will rule to legalize same sex marriage. I however do agree that it will take some time. Our country has abolished slavery and ruled in favor of women's rights although those took time, it is only a matter of years before same sex marriage is the next thing our country will all be 100% acceptable of.
Molly Dodge
MW
I think it is very possible that the USSC will rule on this topic in the near future. The legalization of same-sex marriage nationwide is not necessarily an inevitable outcome, just like marijuana legalization it will be left for each individual state to decide for themselves. It will take a lot of time to make changes, but I believe the USSC will choose to stay out of it (rule against it), and allow states to ban it by popular will.
DILLON B.
DSB63@TXSTATE.EDU
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T/TH @ 2:00
I believe that the Supreme Court will eventually review these cases, especially given this circuit split that has now surfaced. In my opinion, it is clearly time for them to step in regarding this topic. And if they do, I believe they will rule to lift same sex marriage laws in all states. I feel this way because the court looks at precedent when deciding cases, and same sex marriage ban is an inconsistency from state to state, which is why I believe the Supreme Court would think it is time to fix that inconsistency and ultimately lift the bans.
Presley Fowler
T/TH
I strongly believe that the US Supreme Court will eventually legalize same sex marriage. Not allowing these individuals to have the same rights as everyone is unconstitutional. They deserve to be treated equally. I know the high courts have their doubts, but it is time for a change. Our generation is all about change and equality.
Lauryn DeVaul-Online
I think that eventually the Supreme Court will step in and handle these cases regarding the legalization of same-sex marriage, but I think the power will be left to be decided by the individual states. Over time, rights and 'tolerance' for gays has increased so I think that this will be another to be granted in states that do not have this right in the future.
Marquis DeBlaw
T/TH
I am a strong advocate in supporting gay marriage and completely agree that by putting bans on same-sex marriage violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The Supreme Court, I believe, will eventually and inevitably rule that same-sex marriage is constitutional and individuals have a right to do so if they would like. Though it may take a bit longer, I don't think all states will be allowed to ban same-sex marriage by popular will forever. The Supreme Court should recognize banning same-sex marriage is taking away the equal rights of individuals.
Jacy F.
M/W
Based on the legal analysis given by Lyle Denniston on the issue, I strongly believe that this will be presented in front of the Supreme Court. Everyone sounds very sure that the day will come soon that we shall see what the court rules on for same-sex marriage, however I think that this debate will take awhile. I do not think that they like to rush these sorts of issues, and as this is similar in controversy to legalizing abortion, the task at hand is going to be difficult. I believe that states should be able to vote on whether same-sex marriage is legal or not and that the Supreme Court may have to in a way take it too far. I don't want our civil liberties to be taken away by the government anymore than the next person which is why I wish that this could get resolved before taking it to the drastic level at the Supreme Court. I do think that the Supreme Court will legalize same-sex marriage, I think that this is a right we should be able to decide for ourselves on. I do believe in this inevitable outcome, because I find it hard to understand why they would then allow for states to ban it by popular will if it has been legalized.
Jessica Wiethoff (TTH)
I strongly believe that the USSC will review these cases, and rule on this topic down the road. It has been such a controversial issue over the past few years, and I think people are starting to accept it and are just seeing it as a norm now. There are bigger issues in this society than to focus so much time on same sex marriage, because at the end of the day people are going to swing which over way they please.
Lindsey Snoga, TTH 2-3:20
I definitely think the Supreme Court will grant certiorari, especially since so many states are already allowing gay marriage! It will for sure be a close decision because of the make-up of the court, I feel like gay marriage will be legalized soon. Even though it is still a very controversial topic, in recent years gay relationships have become way more accepted in society.
Amaris W M/W
I think eventually the courts will review and will come to an agreement in allowing same sex marriage as a constitutional right. There seems to be more of an outcry of supporters arguing that it violates the 14th amendment than there is people siding with the ban. I look at it as more of a who is it going to affect type of argument. What will the difference, if any, be if same sex marriage is allowed through out the entire country. There's no reason for some states to ban it.. Let the people do as they please when it comes to who they marry..
Jeremy Peña
MW 3:30-4:50
Aaron Lugo TTH
As a country who prides itself on being "free" and "equal" we [The United States] have a history of defining individuals by what makes them different from each other, whether that's race, sexual orientation, gender, social standing etc. The question is and always has been, should we recognize differences in an effort to celebrate diversity or should we simply all just be "Americans"? The trouble is we have always tried to have our cake and eat it too.
I believe that it's inevitable for the court to make a decision on the issue of Same Sex Marriage in the near future and the logical thing to do, keeping in line with the ever changing interpretation of the 14th amendment to the constitution is to legalize Same Sex Marriage nation-wide. However, there's a large number of citizens who believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman that would undoubtedly cry out if it was defined by the court otherwise. A solution would be to remove the word "marriage" from legal terminology altogether and allow both heterosexual and homosexual unions to share in the same legal benefits.
At the end of the day it's hard to say what the supreme court will rule. Equality based on race and gender arose out of painful struggles in our history as a nation. Some people will agree with the rulings of the court some will disagree. Others will be indifferent. That's the way our democratic republic works and in my opinion, always has. The fact that the Constitution can be amended and laws can be enacted and struck down is hopeful for some and terrifying for others. Nothing is set in stone. That's the one thing that is.
i believe the supreme court will soon have to face the issue of gay marriage,as they did the the libel issue. Leaving the states with this issue would take too long and would be a mess of laws in each jurisdiction. The Supreme Court should make gay- marriage legal, for everyone in the United States should have equal rights as everyone else. The voice of the people is powerful weapon and the judges will have to listen to the changing of times.
Jerry G. MW 3:30-4:50
The topic of gay marriage is never going to go away until the Supreme Court rules in the LGBT community’s favor, which I believe it eventually will. Not allowing same-sex marriage is denying them their rights and creating inequality. Everyone may not agree with same-sex marriage because of their own personal opinions and beliefs but that should not dictate whether citizens should receive equal rights-- “It is not the Supreme Courts job to impose a moral code. It’s to allow justice for all”. I think people are just afraid of the idea of change and that is what is stopping America from proceeding with same-sex marriage.
Janelle Hundley/ MW
It is inevitable that the Supreme Court will have to step in on an issue such as this one. Like we talked about in class, gay marriage is a human rights issue similar to the civil rights issue in the 1960s. In a nation that is constantly evolving, we would be foolish not to expect a higher judgment such as the Supreme Court to make decisions on issues such as gay marriage. The Supreme Court will make decisions based on the rights of the humans, not based on personal morals.
Madelynne Scales
M/W 3:30
I think the Supreme Court will have to face this issue eventually, and now seems like a good time to do so. People won't stop fighting for equal rights, until everyone is treated equally - like having the right to marriage. Denying same-sex marriage is denying a human right and creating inequality. Whether you agree with same-sex marriage or not, it shouldn't affect someone else's own rights. People are always going to disagree on issues, but no matter what, everyone deserves to be treated equally. The Supreme Court has the duty to provide equal rights for everyone, leaving their own morals out of it.
Samantha Lauron T/Th
I think same-sex marriage being discussed and disputed so much that the Supreme Court will definitely weigh in on the issue soon. People won't stop until all humans have equal rights. Just like during the Civil Rights Movement, the inequality starts to get attention and people become more accepting. In our generation there isn't so much of an issue with seeing a gay or lesbian couple. I definitely think same-sex marriage will be legalized soon. The Supreme Court has to provide equal rights to everyone according to the constitution.
Devan Flores TTH
The SCOTUS has historically been at the whim of the majority. It is no wonder that, in a more conservative era, the court ruled in favor of bans on gay marriage and homosexual sodomy. The court's interpretation of the Constitution isn't a matter of consistent and methodological understanding or application. It's a matter of partisan composition during any given case/issue. For what other reason would the Constitution, according to the Supreme Court, have said to protect abortion in 1973, but, when asked again in 1992, have said to severely limit that right? Is it so that the limits on the right to abortion existed during those 19 intermediary years? Or is it more likely that culture (and court composition) changed during that time. Precedent is effectively meaningless when partisan judicial activism is the norm, as it seems to be in the modern era.
If anyone is to take seriously the Supreme Court's decisions, they must analyze the personal agendas of those who compose it. In a common law fashion, the court rules according to no central framework (so long as they can get away with it). The Constitution is used to justify or obscure partisanship, not prevent it.
Jon Rodriguez TTh
I think without a doubt that the Supreme Court will have to intervene in this issue eventually. Just as most controversial topics we've talked about in class, I believe gay marriage will inevitably be legalized. We live in a more progressive, tolerant time and I think it's slowly, but surely becoming evident in court decisions. Regardless of personal opinions, I don't see how it can be up to the government to decide the gender of the person you fall in love with and decide to live your life with happily.
Sarah S.
MW 3:30
I think states, nor the government, should be able to decide who is able to get married and who doesn't. If the Supreme court should review this, I would hope they would rule in favor of gay marriage. I think they are a more progressive Court and would see that the only issue people would have with gay marriage is that of a personal matter.
Lyle M.
TTH
I think it is inevitable that gay marriage will be ruled on by the Supreme Court and made legal. One by one, states are ruling in favor. With the progressive nature of our country, I think it's only natural that this is the next step. I guess states may still be able to ban it, but I would hope that they won't.
Kirsten P. T/TH
I don't know either way if the supreme court will decide to act on this issue currently. Legally speaking though, I believe that the issue should be left up to the states to decide yes or no whether same sex marriages should be allowed to occur. There are already states that recognize this "right" for individuals so if marriage is something that has to happen at this very second they would be able to go to those states to do so in the meantime. If this was to be made federally legal does it work the opposite way as the marijuana laws work currently? It is federally illegal to smoke, sell, possess but states are deciding to make it legal. Would certain states be able to do the opposite and make same-sex marriage illegal if they decided on this? Or does that example only work in one direction. I believe that same-sex partnerships should be recognized as far as benefits and tax rights but the word "Marriage" is reserved for a man and a woman as that is the core meaning of the word.
Raymond G
m/w
The topic of legalizing marriage between the same sexes has been an ongoing debate for a while now. I believe that sooner rather than later the United States Supreme Court will have to step in and make a final decision regarding this. Based on the facts that have quickly been presenting themselves within the Circuit Court of Appeals, and the information provided in Lyle Denniston's analysis, I feel that the legalization of same-sex marriage is inevitable. If the Supreme Court decides to review same-sex marriage, I think that they would rule in favor of legalizing it because this is an issue of people's personal decisions and way of life. The government should not be able to tell people who they can/can't love or marry, whether it's someone of the same sex or not.
Elizabeth D. T/TH Class.
I think/hope the Supreme Court will rule to legalize all marriage in all states. I don't think the government, especially state government, should get to decide who can marry who. I think the Supreme Court will have to vote in favor of gay marriage because, as cliché as it sounds, times are changing. The United States are advancing in so many ways and equal rights should not be excluded from those advancements. I do think that the legalization of same-sex marriage is inevitable, for sure.
Alyssa M.
M/W
Will the Supreme Court be able to review each law banning same-sex marriage or defining marriage as between a man and a woman from each state? Given that each of those laws eventually is presented to the USSC at some point in a case.
Did anyone else hear about the women who married in Russia recently? Same-sex marriage is banned there, but one of the women was transgender and was biologically a male and recognized by the state as a man, so they were legally able to marry because of that. It was very interesting.
(T-TH Media Law class)
I am both pro and cons with same-sex marriage, and although I'd love to discuss my thoughts, I'll just keep them to myself since it tends to create controversy. But, in my opinion, Court will most likely end up legalizing same-sex marriage because that's what the people want. Not everyone, but a good percentage of the US population, otherwise it wouldn't be so controversial.
MW 3:30-4:50pm
Absolutely this will end up in the supreme court and IMO they will end up legalizing marriage. The definition has changed in the recent century to ANYONE that loves each other. Under this definition I've recently heard some people argue that people should be able to marry animals because of the subjective ambiguity of "love". Now that marriage isn't reserved for the sake of procreation between a man and a woman. While I see the argument as demeaning to same sex couples and a way to somehow lower the respect of "gay love". While this is only one argument of many against gay marriage I thought it was quite controversial which is why I bring it up now, but I digress. The ban will end up being declared as unconstitutional and the states will not be able to ban by popular will.
Eli Ratcliff
T-Th
This is a very interesting showdown that we are coming to in the next few months. I'm at looking forward to seeing the supreme court finally tackle the subject of gay marriage rights. I have to imagine that the ruling will go for gay marriage, though it is hard to predict given the current make-up of the supreme court. Either way, history will be made whether good or bad. I hope the US Supreme Court grants certiiorari soon so we can see this legal battle unfold.
Alan Espejel TTH
This is a very controversial topic that I don’t think society will ever agree on completely. I think their will always be a big division between conservatives and republicans and their strong beliefs over issues such as this one. However, I do believe eventually gay marriage will be permitted. Although it may still take some time, this issue will continue to be brought up and sooner or later society and the Supreme Court will give in and learn to accept it. The legalization of marijuana is very similar to the legalization of gay marriage because it is also a very controversial issue that many people highly agree or disagree on. After long deliberation involving that issue, in the states of Alaska, Oregon, Colorado, and Washington it is now legal for both medial and non-medical use. I bring this up because I think similarly gay marriage will soon follow in these steps and slowly become legal in more and more states.
Katja G.
M/W
When reading the opposing arguments for the same-sex marriage disagreement, I realized I understood both sides.
This issue becomes difficult because it's just plain and simple: you either are opposed to same-sex marriage or you aren't.
With this being said, this is clearly a national issue and concerns many legal actions. With this being an issue for many years now, I believe the Supreme Court needs to grant certiorari to put this dispute to an end.
I don't believe individual states should have different legalities in the situation and a national law needs to be put in place--whether it prohibits or allows same-sex marriage.
Brittany G.
M/W
I think that supreme court will here this case and eventually legalize gay marriage. Our society has dramatically increased support of the gay community. The rights of gays and straights should be the same. Although not everyone may agree with the issue of same sex marriage it is a topic that deserves to be discussed.
Shelby Coke Tuesday/Thursday 2:00 Class
I think the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage, and that eventually it will happen nationwide. This country's views on that subject are changing rapidly, and with more and more people, especially the younger generations, being in support of it, I don't think the lawmakers will be able to continue voting against it.
Marilyn G. - Online
I believe the Supreme court will rule in favor of same sex marriage. This will be supporting the many who live in this country,vote and pay taxes like everyone else, they deserve to win this argument because its part of their Freedom, or should be. I want to say states would not be allowed to ban same Sex Marriage; probably another reason why this issue is has to be looked at with such detail and carefulness.
Sierra K.-TTH
I believe that same sex marriages will gradually become legalized. While viewpoints on the moral value of same sex marriages may not be same, the treatment of those who desire same sex marriages should not be stolen or hindered.
Meghan B.
TTH
I think that same sex marriages will be legalized. The times are changing and so are people's attitudes. I think that the LGBT community has more support now than ever, and that ultimately it's not the government's nor the Court's "job to impose a moral code." The ban is unconstitutional.
Ludmilla Aguiar
Online
The USSC will definitely be in a pickle over this decision. Same sex marriages have been a topic of discussion for some time now. As we talked about in class recently about the laws dealing with people and their "private life" I feel the same rules should apply in this situation. From the beginning the United States wanted to separate the laws of church and state and this seems to be something that is mainly driven by the opinions of religious belief. They are typically the ones who disagree with this matter due to their moral code. This matter does not come close to the cases of women's rights and racial integration but it is a very similar situation. Although it did take some time for people to change I believe the same thing will happen in this situation and in the long run we will see the people that stood on the wrong side of the law just as some did with racial integration. Now it is nearly impossible to predict the verdict of this case but I would vote in favor of allowing same sex marriage to happen nation wide. I think this will be a case that will be left up to the states to decide whether they will allow it or not until eventually everyone is on board.
Zach Rowley
T/Th
I feel as if the Supreme Court will make a decision on this sooner rather than later. It is unfair that same sex relationships have to go through this process. I know that many people do not agree with it, but how can it be fair that opposite sex marriages be okay?
Preston A MW 3:30-4:50
I think the Supreme Court should make their judgments based on the right of humans not on personal beliefs or morals. Denying someone the right to marry another individual regardless of sex, is denying the basic principles on which this country was founded. We must change, evolve and adapt as we continue in to a more open-minded conscious. In saying this, I believe the Supreme Court will rule in favor of same-sex marriage with the realization of the things mentioned above.
Chelsea Seifert
T/TH 2-3:20
Cory Bacon MW 3:30-4:50
Same sex marriages has been a huge debate topic for a long time now, and I feel that in my lifetime, if not in the next few years, that the Supreme Court will finally have a ruling on if they are legal throughout the entire United States or not. I believe the ruling will be that they are legal because marriage is a personal choice that a government shouldn't be able to ban. It reminds me of some of our discussions this semester such as flag burning, cross burning, etc. We can't ban things just because they are controversial or make us feel uncomfortable.
I think the USSC will hear the case and legalize gay marriage. Even though not everyone agrees on the issue, I feel like it's very clear that prohibiting them from getting married is unfair. If the Supreme Court is all about enforcing justice, they should rule in favor of gay marriage. However, I can see why they'd be stalling because if they rule in favor, it's going to be a huge deal. I hope one day all gays can be married.
Taylor Kelly (MW)
I think this will go to the USSC and pass. This issue has been going on for decades now and times have changed. More people are open and accepting to gay marriage. Marriage is a personal choice and no one should be able to tell someone who they can and can not marry.
Danielle Cisneros MW
I would hope that when it's brought to the Supreme Court, that they'll rule the bans unconstitutional. And since this is such a controversial issue, I do think it will make it to the Supreme Court. I agree wholeheartedly with Circuit Judge Martha Craig Daughtrey's dissenting statement; the court is treating the plaintiffs as abstractions instead of people with families.
Araceli B. TTh
I think that if this issue is brought to the Supreme Court, the ruling will be that striking down same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. That makes sense as to why they are waiting for a case that wants to uphold same-sex marriage. I also believe that the legalization of same-sex marriage nationwide is an inevitable outcome. I think it will take conservative states (like Texas) longer than liberal states to grant the same rights to everyone, but I do think it will happen eventually.
Ashley S. MW
I think that the supreme court will eventually legalize gay marriage, but think that it will take some time in order for it take effect. I think that same sex marriage is something that older generations struggle with due to the way that they were raised and brought up, but I think that younger generations are more open in regards to this topic. Times have changed and I think that for the most part our society has become more accepting of these changes.
Sarah Sutton
T/TR
If the Supreme Court takes on these cases and petitions, I believe that sam-sex marriage will be legalized based on the unconstitutionality of the marriage ban. Especially referring to the sodomy cases and O'Connor's actions to base her decisions not on her moral compass but on the standards of the entire nation, I believe our Supreme Court will uphold the personal rights of those interested in same-sex marriage. It is inevitable that this will become legal, the only question is how long it will take. For decades, our country has gradually recognized the rights of those who were formerly considered "not worthy" of the basic human rights white men gave to themselves. It will become clear to the American public that people who are gay are still legitimate humans and citizens, just as they did with african-americans, women and other minorities robbed of their basic human rights.
Katie B.
TTH
It is extremely difficult to think about how the Supreme Court will handle this decision. Same-sex marriage has been a topic that has always been left lingering, but what progress is being made? I believe that Supreme Court will move to legalize same-sex marriage. I think that individuals would get really tired and fed up with not being able to marry whoever they wanted. The voices will be heard. It is such a sensitive and personal topic and I feel like that gets in the way of individuals thoughts about this topic, along with morals, cultures and upbringings. This topic deserves to be addressed and I would not surprised if the legalization of same-sex marriage goes nationwide. There's also the difference of generations here. All the people in the Supreme Court grew up differently compared to my generation age. Younger generations are more open and accepting of same-sex couples and marriages, while older marriages would feel opposite on this topic.
Hillary O (T/Th)
What would be the supreme courts ruling if they review same sex laws
At first when reading the questions, I thought the Supreme Court would continue to not get involved in the matter. I would assume they would like to leave it up to the states, however Lyle Denniston disregarded that option with good reasoning. The Court cannot continue to ignore a growing situation. More and more same-sex marriage cases are being put in front of the Court. So when, not if, the court reviews the laws I believe they will continue to allow the states to ban same-sex marriage if they wish to do so. I think they would like for state to in other words “figure it out” for themselves before they have to step in. However, I do think it is inevitable that same-sex marriage will be legalized nation wide. It won’t happen very soon, but it will eventually happen. Many people have had the courage to come out as homosexual than they have in the past and it has become more accepted. That’s hard to say being from Texas, but nationally it is being accepted. These people who are coming out have been and will continue to fight for equal rights and I don’t see how the states can continue to fight it and how Supreme Court can continue to stay out of it. Same-sex laws will be more of a political campaign that politicians can use to get votes.
Hunter C. TTH
I think the Supreme Court will hear the case very soon. I think it's a must with all the controversy. I think the vote will be close, but the legalization of gay marriage is inevitable in the future- sooner or later I think it will happen. Even though some do not agree that it should be legalized, times have changed and we are more open to accepting issues like this one.
Aliena B. T/TH
I believe that the Supreme Court will eventually legalize gay marriage. Although, I think that it will go into effect very slowly. For change to happen it will take time. There are always going to be people that will disagree with change and Supreme Court decisions, but that doesn't mean it has to be illegal. I think there is more of a chance for legal gay marriage to happen because the younger generations are starting to take over who think differently than older generations have. The ideas of homosexuality is not new, people are just starting to gain a voice on the matter. Whether people agree with it or not, change is inevitable.
-Laura Moss
MW
Thankfully, our nation is (slowly but surely) recognizing that to deny homosexuals of the same rights as heterosexuals is unconstitutional and driven by the morality of some, but not all. This is an example of why separating church and state is important; forcing any one moral standard on an entire nation that is founded on individuality and democracy would be taking a step backwards. It is inevitable that the Supreme Court rules on this in the future and hopefully, they rule in favor of equality. We, as a nation, will look back on this time in disgust, just as we do when we reflect back on racial segregation. It's just not right.
Emily Kellar
TTH 2pm
I think the legalization of same-sex marriage will eventually happen nationwide. I feel like there's such a push for it to be legal everywhere and a push for equality. I think the states will ban it by popular will for now, because they can. When/if there becomes outrage over it, I think the Supreme Court will then hear the case. But I don't think the USSC will unless there's a huge demand among the people of those states.
Kayla K. TTH
Like most of my fellow classmates, I believe that the Supreme Court will EVENTUALLY legalize gay marriage as a nation. Unfortunately, I don't think that time will be as soon as most of us would like it to be. Although our nation as a whole (for the most part) is becoming more accepting of the LGBT community, there will always be people who believe that same sex marriage is not right, and should not be legal. Either way, I feel that same sex marriage issue is getting so big that the Supreme Court won't be able to avoid it for long.
Tesia G
MW 3:30
The United States will soon be a place of true freedom. I agree with most of the other posts, the SC will legalize same-sex marriage in the future.
The age-old mentality that it should not be allowed is slowly but surely losing its strenght in numbers.
Younger generations are much more welcoming to change, acceptance and embracing diversity.
Like someone stated above, I also have personally not met anyone, nor do I have a friend that is opposed to it.
We cannot deny nor restrict how someone feels nor whom they choose to marry.
Patricia M. MW
I think that gay marriage will eventually become nationally recognized. When you were discussing everything that was happening with the USSC and the position they are in, it really gave me hope for a better future. I've always thought that getting married wouldn't be a problem for me, but I am glad that the process is moving quicker than I would have thought! I am glad that the U.S. is finally catching up with a lot of other democratic countries in the world.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but denying same sex couples to marry is infringing on their inalienable rights. Same sex will probably one day be legalized but there will always be people who believe it shouldn't. You can't change everyone's view on this issue. I personally don't believe in the idea of any kind of marriage. Most marriages end in divorce or unhappiness and I'd rather not have to deal with that.
Daniel P
MW 3:30
I believe that a responsible supreme court (that is interested in hearing the calls for change from the people) will inevitably hear this case. While it is a touchy subject, and he make up of the court is not exactly what I should be to go anywhere on the issue, we have constantly been changing the rules of our society and what our acceptable standards are. If not in this lifetime of these justices, certainly in the next. Just like in the cases regarding free speech during the Vietnam War, our society will continue to grow more open minded, and that includes the Supreme Court justices. While it may not be in the near future, I believe that this is something that will inevitably happen. It is only a matter of time. By postponing it the court is only making the wait longer.
Patrick Connor Markey- MW
Chris Chaney M/W @ 3:30
One of the most well discussed issues on the government's plate today. With so much active support for Gary marriage and the acceptance of the LGBT community in individual state legislatures, it is only a matter of time, sooner than later, legalizing gay marriage will be put before the supreme court soon and we hope it will folloe in the footsteps of the increasing state's rulings for gay marriage.
I may not personally agree with same sex marriages but I do accept the fact that times have changed. Gay marriage has been an issue for a long time now however as time has gone on more and more people have come to accept it. I don't agree with it due to the bible and my religious belief. However, I respect others wishes and am trying to be tolerable of others. I don't see any way that the SC wouldn't allow it to pass and let same sex marriages happen. It is inevitable.
I may not personally agree with same sex marriages but I do accept the fact that times have changed. Gay marriage has been an issue for a long time now however as time has gone on more and more people have come to accept it. I don't agree with it due to the bible and my religious belief. However, I respect others wishes and am trying to be tolerable of others. I don't see any way that the SC wouldn't allow it to pass and let same sex marriages happen. It is inevitable.
Michael M. MW
Jazmine Myles MW 3:30
Same-sex marriage is still such a fresh issue and I think there are too many advocates to avoid its legalization. Ultimately, we are the leaders of tomorrow (my generation) and it will take persistence on these issues to see a change. I am confident that it wont be but a few more years before the change happens.
In my opinion you love a soul not a person anyway!
MacKenzie. S TTh
I am confident that USSC will rule in favor of same sex marriage. I think this is a "private life" matter as we discussed in class. One's moral code should not hinder another's personal rights. I think in this day and age our country has made immense progress in socially accepting the gay community, so this is a perfect time for the USSC to hear a case like this. I hope they do and give the gay community the rights they deserve.
Kristen Smith- MW 3:30
I think that the legalization of gay marriage is inevitable, but it will be slow. I personally think it is a great advancement for our country and its citizens, but there is always going to be hesitation to change. Not everyone is going to be on board, immediately or later on, and that's going to have to be an accepted fact. I have a lot of opinions on the issue that I won't get into, but I think it will be a progression that occurs on a state-to-state basis before it will ever be a nation-wide acceptance.
It is a great point that this issue shouldn't need to go through the courts, and rather should be resolved through other means. However, these laws do go against the 14th amendment and therefore all laws prohibiting should becoming null and void. It is inevitable that the Supreme Court will need to rule on the issue, and is a disgrace that the court has attempted to avoid it. Regardless of the outcome of their decision, all states should take a look at the laws they are writing. There MUST be a separation between church and state. The amount of laws, even aside from bans on same-sex marriage, that violate this notion that our country is founded on is shameful.
Greta Bruner
MW 3:30
Sadly, the topic of same-sex marriage is still a very controversial issue to many. I personally don't think it should be an "issue," but the government tends to place boundaries on the lives of everyday people.
I can only say that I hope the nationwide legalization of same-sex marriage is inevitable. It SHOULD happen, but that doesn't mean it will. The Supreme Court will have to make that decision for the public. I do have faith in our country and I hope the courts rule in favor of gay marriage. It's been too long of a fight.
Hannah C
Online
I believe that the legalization of same-sex marriage nationwide is inevitable. Although many may not agree with the principles of it, at the end of the day we live in a supposed "free" nation. We should have the right to love and marry who we please. It will take time, but eventually equal rights will prevail.
Raelyn Bobo (MW)
I not only think that the Supreme Court will be weighing in on this matter regarding same-sex marriage, I believe the issue is coming to a head and it needs to be reviewed.
With so many other horrific crisis going on right now involving social, economic and political issues, worrying and trying to prevent two people who love each other from getting married seems ridiculous to me. The ability for states to ban same-sex marriage not only disregards peoples constitutional rights, it creates a political and social divide that ultimately causes more problems.
If the USSC doesn't step in, it sends the message that it's okay for government officials to dictate and make rules based on personal preference or "morals," and that type of control is a slippery slope that honestly worries me.
I believe the USSC will review same-sex marriage, I think they need to review it, and I hope they legalize it, because with so much animosity and doubt lingering in America right now regarding obvious/disheartening faults in our Justice system... I think a win for equality is imperative.
Melanie Carissimi
M/W
As a lot of advances for gay marriage have been made in recent months, I believe the Supreme Court will definitely address the issue sooner rather than later. However, I believe, to some extent, it will always be up to the states individually. I think gay marriage being legal in all 50 states is a possible future, but not necessarily one that will come for a long time. There are a lot of areas that are still just not on board, obviously. All I have to say is that I hope to live to see a country that supports love between people of all sexual orientations.
Kelly K
TR 2 p.m.
I believe they will rule in favor of allowing same sex marriage since Kennedy is the swing vote and will most likely vote for legalizing same sex marriage. I believe it will be a nation wide change rather than state by state. State are suppose to recognize straight couples marriage, so why should a gay couple be different?
Candace E. TTH
I think that the court will have to weigh in on the issue very soon. I would think that the court would overturn the ruling. I think it should be nationwide but I can't help but think it will remain in the states.
Hannah Palmer
TTH 2pm
I think that the court will be weighing in on this issue within the next year for sure. At the very least, I see it as inevitable that the Supreme Court will be ruling on this issue, and that same-sex marriage will be legalized/or the bans will be struck down. Same-sex marriage has become increasingly accepted in the nation and it's no longer a matter of can it, so much as when. It might take some more conservative parts of the country a little time to get there, but I think that they will. Personally, I feel that a ban is unconstitutional and infringes on a person's pursuit of happiness, so I think that the bans need to be struck down.
Steffanie Agnew
M/W
I think that eventually the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage. Slowly state by state it is becoming allowed. Our culture is becoming more liberal and open about these topics. It will always be an issue and a controversy along with several other topics but I think one day soon it will be accepted, at least by the government.
Online
I know it's probably just wishful thinking and me wanting this, but I believe the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage. It's already become legal in so many states that I think it's not really a big deal for them to just go ahead and legalize all over. If not now, it's going to happen eventually so at some point we will all have equal marriage rights... And that makes me happy! :)
Heidi Kucera
MW 330-450
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