In light of political protests on the Texas State campus, across the state, nation and world in the past few
years, it’s interesting to note that this is nothing new in San Marcos.
Consider the situation with the San Marcos 10. These 10 students at Texas State
University (then called Southwest Texas State University) took part in a
protest against the Vietnam War on campus, but were suspended and expelled from
the university in 1969.
Read this University Star feature story about some of the
members of the San Marcos 10 returning to Texas State on the 50th
anniversary of the protest in 2019: https://universitystar.com/17846/life-and-arts/san-marcos-10-revisit-texas-state-for-50-year-protest-anniversary/
Also, listen to this NPR report broadcast from Oct. 23, 2001, in which two
of the San Marcos 10 were interviewed: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1131946
Consider that this interview was conducted less than two months after the
terrorist attack on Sept. 11, 2001.
After you read the article and listen to the NPR report, return here and add a
comment
with your reaction.
211 comments:
1 – 200 of 211 Newer› Newest»Hi , My name is Rylyne Townsend and I am in your 3:30 Monday/Wednesday class. One distinction I saw is that the NPR broadcast was considerably closer to the original protest date and featured personal thoughts on a post-9/11 context, but the University Star piece focuses on anticipation and memory of the event in 2019, looking back 50 years later. These instances help to influence how the same protest is shown differently in every media.
Hi this is Ashley Waters from your 11a.m class, always in the front row! Seeing how Texas State University's activist past is still relevant today is fascinating. The anti-Vietnam War demonstration by the San Marcos 10 serves as a potent reminder of the influence that students have had on public conversation. In addition to celebrating their bravery, their a return for the 50th anniversary serves as a reminder of how important it is to always stand up for one's convictions, particularly in times of crisis. The similarities between previous and current protests serve as a helpful reminder that activism plays an important part in campus life and is a reflection of larger social issues. Hearing about their experiences in 2001, right after 9/11, provides even more background and demonstrates how quickly the activist scene can change in reaction to national events.
Natalia H M/W 11a.m.
I just want to begin by saying that I had no idea the San Marcos 10 were a thing at all, and I think they should be talked about more. I thought it was very brave for the remaining protesters to stay despite being threatened to get suspended or expelled. From what I understood from the University Star and podcast they remaining 10 were very sure in their decisions, and made good use of their first amendment and right to free speech
Hello, my name is Claire Smith and I am in your 3:30 class. I am very glad we are discussing this because I have never heard of the San Marcos 10 before. I think they should be more well-known to inspire upcoming generations to take advantage of their freedom of speech. One of the protestors, David Bayless, previously served in the war, which makes his voice even more inspiring to me. They protested by the stallion statue on campus, which is where I often see people protesting various things today. I bet they contributed to the fact that speaking up for what we believe in on campus is not a punishable act anymore!
Hello, Im Zane Burgess i'm in your 11am class on Monday/Wednesday. I think its very inspiring to see an example that this group of students set. Being threaten to be suspend with their previous credits been cycled and not wavering in the pursuit to spread their truth show courage and honor in my eye. Each one of them believe that this was the right decision and didn't care if they were backed up. And I feel that's what we need as an example as American citizens.It shows us through what we see as punishing actions towards one self can lead a path to change for the increase of freedom that we deserve.
Brooklyn H , 3:30 class. It was truly incredible how the Southwest Texas 10 had such an impact still on campus 50 years after the protest. I am very aware that students do have an impact on government and politics, even in small ways. However, if it is done correctly, like the Texas State 10 did, it will have an even bigger lasting impact. I appreciate that these students proudly used their free speech rights and took their own experiences, such as being a veteran, to their advantage and to share their views with others who have not had those experiences. I also appreciate how these students had civil protests without a care for support or approval, which is a great example of staying true to what you believe in. I think certain groups of people need to take notes on this situation, and realize that civil protesting is better and more successful than violence, judgement, and ignorance. I also want to highlight how the broadcast and the article look at the same situation in different ways, showing how media bias can portray the same situation in two different lights.
Hello my name is Dalilah G. Monday/Wednesday 3:30pm
Reading the University Star about the story is eye-catching on how they were censored then. It mentioned how Bill Cunningham, the editor of the time, was removed from the paper for covering the event out of his will; this is an example of censorship but brave of him to still publish it.
I find it courageous that the ten stayed when they were given threats of suspension and when the crowd grew smaller. A group formed around them being called "communists," "cowards," and "thugs" by President Nixon. The empathy they showed when others left, they understood and didn't hold it against them even years later. Especially David Bayless's choice of staying after serving the war, knowing he was part of it and at the time before he didn't have an opinion until he returned did he mention he "I felt used and abused (knowing) people had died for lie after lie" felt like sharing his thought regardless of what happened to him. This line showed me a raw emotion, and you can still feel it in the audio interview. In the audio, he mentions how being kicked out of school was small. It had nothing to do with whether he would stay or go if he wanted to make his statement. However, the biggest takeaway was how, in today's protest, they could see the high energy and how it could repeat itself, and David Bayless explains that
Hi this is Maddy Allen I am in your MW 11AM class.
The story of the San Marcos 10 was a powerful and emotional testament to the courage of individuals standing up for what they believe in, even when it comes at a great personal cost. It evokes a deep sense of admiration for these students who, despite being surrounded by hostility and facing severe consequences, remained steadfast in their convictions against the Vietnam War. Their peaceful protest, motivated by a shared sense of injustice, demonstrates the strength of collective action and the moral imperative to speak out against violence and oppression. What's especially moving is the way each protester brought a unique perspective to the group, from veterans who had firsthand experiences of the war's devastation to pacifists who opposed all forms of violence. Their diversity in backgrounds and reasons for protesting only underscores how deeply the Vietnam War impacted people from all walks of life.Overall, the San Marcos 10's bravery serves as an inspiring reminder of the importance of standing up for justice, even when it feels risky or unpopular. Their story illustrates how individuals, united by a common cause, can challenge the status quo and create lasting change.
Hello, this is Hannah Holbrook and I am in your 11am class.
After reading about how the student activists opposing the Vietnam War were expelled for protesting on a public campus, this made me think about free speech and civil rights on college campuses. After Listening to NPR interview, shortly after 9/11, adds a new take, as political protests and expressions of nationalism continued and put fear into people. This shows the long history between student activism and current political issues.
Hello this is Buddy Santos Jr I am in your 3:30 m/w class. My opinion after watching these videos is, the social unrest of the era, particularly in light of the most recent 9/11 attacks, would have had a significant effect on the San Marcos 10, who were suspended and eventually expelled in 1969 for opposing the Vietnam War. It's possible that the fear, heightened patriotism, and heightened sensitivity to dissent that followed 9/11 reminded them of the hostile response to anti-war protests they encountered during the Vietnam War. The similarities between the two periods—which were both marked by national crises—may cause one to experience déjà vu or even become frustrated with the cyclical nature of protest and repression. When a student considers this, the weight of history and the fear of speaking up might feel particularly pressing in the wake of 9/11.
Hello, my name is Chris Kallman I am in your 11am M/W class and one thing I found interesting from the University Star feature story is the fact that during the protests for the Vietnam War, the managing editor of the publication was removed from the paper against his will for covering the protest. This is crazy to me because it relates to what we have been learning currently. The importance of the First Amendment and its protection of free speech and protests are integral to freedom in the United States and the fact that even here at our campus there were attempts to censor anti-war rhetoric is surprising. Secondly, the first-hand account of Murray Rosenwasser and his time in the war as contrasted to the lies that Americans were fed contextualizes why so many were not supportive of the war effort and why the first amendment is so important to this day.
My name is Gretchen B., and I am in the 3:30pm class. I though the San Marcos 10 and the managing editor of The College Star were great examples of people peacefully exercising First Amendment rights and facing unfair repercussions for it. It was disappointing to see the repercussions they faced; however, it was satisfying to see it come full circle with a holiday and article published in The University Star honoring the people who stood up (or sat down) for what they believed in. I also found it ironic that Sallie Ann Satagaj’s father wrote her a letter stating that he knew the U.S. Constitution would protect her because she ended up being kicked out of Texas universities for a year. I liked how the San Marcos 10 did not blame anyone who left the protest when they were asked because while they should have legally been allowed to stay, the consequences the school imposed were extreme. I think they should put a marker for where the event took place because I didn't even know this happened; although I see why the university would not want that because it would tarnish their reputation.
Hello my name is Kyle Halligan-Duffy and I am in your 3:30 p.m. Monday/Wednesday class. I think it is very important to note here the time of the NPR recording. As someone who lived through 9/11, I was 10 at the time, and watched the war on terrorism unfold what Mr. Bayless said is completely true. What started out as a pro patriotism movement eventually turned anti war. The longer we stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan, the more people became weary of the body count and wanted us to pull out our troops. It's quite funny how history repeats itself.
Hello my name is Kendall Casanova and I am in your M/W 3:30 class. I have never heard of the San Marcos 10 before reading this article and am very impressed by the stories of these 10 students. It is inspiring to see them stand for what they believed was right and use their first amendment to its potential. It was disappointing to see how the situation was taken care of, but also good to see that there is now a holiday in their name and they're honored and appreciated for their work. I do believe they should get more recognition or even some sort of plaque on campus that can help passing students read their stories and be inspired as well. Overall bring more awareness to what happened that day at the stallions, letting newer protesters read their stories and want to make an impact as they did.
Gabriela G.
Monday & Wednesday at 11 am
It was inspiring to read each of the San Marcos 10 stories, and what inspired each of them to stand in their beliefs. I also admire their commitment to keeping the protest peaceful through the backlash from the administration, peers, and for some their own families. However I believe it reflects the utmost importance of the public knowing their rights and that it takes active participation and advocacy for change to occur. It is also uplifting to know that the campus has changed with the times not only allwoing but actively encouraging students to continue advocating for what they believe in.
(Kaye K, 11:00 am class)
I'd never heard of the San Marcos 10 before this, but it's definitely an interesting story with many parallels to current events. It's inspiring to hear their stories, and the events share many similarities to other anti-war protests of the time. In particular though, it was prescient of David Bayless to suggest that we wouldn't learn much from protests of the past, and continue to display the same strong pro-war fervor as was displayed in his time at Texas State. It makes me wonder what the protestors of his day would have thought about the crackdowns on protests against violence in Gaza. I'd personally say our nation's pro-war and anti-protest tendencies still need to be addressed.
I was really moved by the participants' heartfelt words when I listened to the NPR interview, especially in light of the saddened mood immediately following 9/11. Their experiences highlight the dangers of activism as well as the extraordinary bravery and resiliency required to stand up for what one believes in. It's amazing to observe how their experiences reflect movements happening now; even if the issues at hand may change, the necessity for individuals to speak up will always exist. Texas State's 50th anniversary celebration serves as an important reminder that, despite institutional resistance, activism may really result in significant change. Students of today and the future must take a cue from these earlier demonstrations and realize how important their voices are in influencing society.
Gavin Merchant, 11:00 am MW MC 4301 class,
The San Marcos 10 story is a very intriguing story to hear about being expelled from their school for simply using their freedom of speech. The fact that the administration told them a silent protest would cause a "disruption" is crazy to me. NO jury and a judge decided the decision. It's pretty cool that the Mayor gave them a day. Really shows how much this town values the 1st Amendment rights, especially as students at a public university, where it should be a given.
Hi my name is Giselle S. and I'm in your online course. I had no idea The San Marcos 10 was a thing that happened here. A peaceful protest turned into a hostile environment isn't something unknown to people today. But to know it happened on a campus I walk on every day is so interesting to find out about.
Hey, this is Kyla McClintock from the online class. Reading and listening was so interesting since I did not know about it. I thought it was interesting that there wasn't a jury/ judge that decided on any decisions and that the mayor gave them a single day. I enjoyed listening to the participant's words because when I listened to the NPR interview it really felt so powerful and I felt so many emotions. It really does have so many similarities to current events, which I guess proves the theory that history does repeat itself. I admire the people who fought for what they believed in and it is defiantly inspirational. Texas State's 50th-anniversary celebration gives us a reminder that even in the dark light can still be found if only you try.
It’s crazy to think that protests like the ones we see today were happening way back in 1969 at Texas State. The San Marcos 10 getting suspended and expelled for protesting the Vietnam War shows just how different the times were when it came to free speech on campus. It’s cool that they came back for the 50th anniversary, and it makes me appreciate how far things have come with free speech, even though it’s still a big issue today. Listening to that NPR interview, especially so soon after 9/11, really puts into perspective how important it is to protect the right to protest, no matter the time period.
— Sam K., Online class
My name is Brianna Bordosky, and I am in your online class. The University Star and NPR stories were fascinating, I have heard of the protest group but had not really looked into the event. It is so inspiring to see how resilient and strongly committed to their beliefs that the San Marcos 10 were, even when faced with consequences potentially detrimental to their future. I think it speaks a lot to the way that a lot of college students even today are passionate about standing up for what they believe in.
My name is Adriel Carrasco and I'm in the MC 4301.001 section. As a Hispanic college student, their story reminds me of the importance of representation and the power of student activism. Sometimes, it can feel like we’re expected to follow the rules and avoid conflict to preserve the opportunities we’ve worked so hard for. However, the San Marcos 10 showed that even students—especially those from underrepresented backgrounds—have the power to push back and demand a better future for everyone.
Their legacy inspires me to be brave and to remember that our voices, especially as first-gen students, matter in shaping the world we want to live in. Whether we’re speaking out on social issues, advocating for educational equity, or standing up for our community, we can leave a lasting impact just like they did.
Hello my name is Alanna Solis in your 11am class. Just to be clear, I was completely unaware of the existence of the San Marcos 10, and I believe there need to be more discussion about them. I find it quite motivating to observe the example that those young people have established. I think it shows bravery and honor to be threatened with suspension after their prior credits were cycled and to continue spreading the truth without faltering. They didn't care if they had support from others because they all thought that this was the proper course of action.
Hello, my name is Ethan Ratliff and I am in your online class. This is my first time learning about the San Marcos. I found the University Star article to be intriguing and the San Marcos 10 deserves more recognition. I'm shocked they were expelled because I thought students at that time would have the right to do a peaceful protest. They were pretty brave to continue protesting after being threatened with suspension. I found this article to be very inspiring because the San Marcos 10 stood for what they believe in.
Hi, my name is Foster Milburn and I am in your 3:30 class on Mondays and Wednesdays. I did not know how involved our campus was during the Vietnam war. It's very sad to see free speech restricted during the time, but witnessing firsthand as a student today how they handle student protests is very open and almost facilitated compared to the one that occurred during Vietnam. I think it's because of people like them who pave the way for future generations.
Hey, my name is Emma R and I am in your 11am class. The San Marcos 10 article was interesting to me, as I had no idea they were even a thing. I think it is incredibly brave for these students to fight for what they believe in, even while being told there would be consequences for their actions. It is cool to see how they advocated for themselves despite everything that was going on around them.
(First time learning about the San Marcos 10*)
Hello, my name is Kloe Foster and I am in you 3:30 class on Mondays and Wednesdays. I was very unaware of the San Marcos 10 until today. It is inspiring reading about their courage to protest against the Vietnam War even if it meant they were to be kicked out of University. I think the 10 who remained are hero's and are strong for staying even though they were only given 3 minutes to take a step back. I also find it interesting that they can look back now and see how much we all admire them and are proud of them for standing up, even though in the moment they felt alone and defeated by the University and their peers.
My name is Peter E., I am from the online class. I found it really remarkable to see that these 10 protestors seemed to receive so much antagonism for silently, peacefully protesting the war. I mean, one of the protestors was actually a Vietnam veteran; so, he knew exactly what kind of an awful mess was taking place in Vietnam. Another protestor was the daughter of a Vietnam medic; so, she also would understand just how terrible the war was to the young soldiers. I mean it is kind of strange; these students did not want more people to die. They basically wanted to save American lives from death. Still, they seemed to garner so much hate and oppression. We read in recent chapters about justice and the right to trials, but it seems that these students were prohibited to fairly promote their cases in court. As well, the article discussed how student media was prohibited from reporting on the event, which really remined me about the concept of prior restraint. It seems conducting this interview after 9/11 may have been a way to foreshadow future sentiments. During the Vietnam War, at least in the beginning, many people felt patriotically inclined to support the war. Likewise, after 9/11 many Americans felt it was their patriotic duty to support the war efforts to find those responsible for the attack. However, public support for the war in Vietnam eventually dwindled, because so many Americans were dying for what seemed to be a futile cause. Similarly, as many American soldiers continued to die in the Middle East, much of the public began to question the country's military campaigns. In the end, I think this story was a powerful reminder that sometimes people have to do what they think is right, even though they may receive strong backlash.
Alexis Munoz- Online Class
To be honest, I had absolutely no idea about the San Marcos 10! This was so interesting to see it all play out from them being expelled to fear of acceptance from families of being a protester. I can only imagine the time and how feelings were at an absolute high that divided people. I love how there was a small look into each protester of the San Marcos 10 their lives, and why they all protested and the aftermath of it all. It’s a bittersweet reading, but something I think should be talked about more, and raises many questions for todays society.
Hello, My name is Jollean V from your Monday/Wednesday 3:30 class.
When first reading over the San Marcos 10, it was actually my first time reading about them. When listening to the NPR audio coverage, I thought some of the stories were fascinating. For example, the man who graduated in 1972 , soon after the suspension, but was not allowed to walk the stage when finished; as well as the woman who graduated 20 years later after the suspension. I think everyone involved in the protest for the Vietnam war was brave and stood up for what they believed in, even though they knew consequences would ensue.
Hello, my name is Christian P. from your Monday/Wednesday 3:30 class.
It is strange to read and hear about the San Marcos 10 coming from how long ago it was to today. Mainly because from going through life as well as going through class it seems like these types of protest are things within our society that are or at least said to be protected to the highest degree. It was interesting to read about the fact the crowd was so upset with the protesters and almost to the point of violence even more so that being barred from enrollment from all Texas Universities is extreme, not just our campus but any campus your ideas are not allowed they were told basically.
Hi! My name is Kallie Petty and I am in your online class!
This was my first time hearing about the San Marcos 10! I found it really fascinating that even years ago, they were fighting for rights to free speech, just as college students now do. I think this is something we should all have heard of considering it was pretty historical having happened at our school. I find it really brave that even with some of the students having their college paid for or paying by themselves, they were willing to stand on what they believed despite knowing there would more than likely be consequences.
Hi, this is Haley Carter from your 11 a.m. class. Students taking action and demonstrating their beliefs as a body is very inspiring, especially when faced with very real consequences. I have never heard of the San Marcos 10, surprisingly. It is unbelievable consequences as far as not even being able to walk during graduation which people work so hard for took place, as well as barring from enrollment. It makes me very aware of the privileges I have now as a student. I feel very protected to voice my opinions.
Mason J (Online). I knew a little about the San Marcos 10. It was insightful to get the full scoop from The University Star and a little blip from NPR. It was interesting to hear from the NPR interview that the judge made his ruling based on interference with the free flow of education. However, they were not causing a ruckus; it was the general hoorah they created by their silent demonstration.
Hi, this is Alydia Little from your 3:30 class. I thought it was so interesting that I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 until now. It's so amazing that, as young adults, they were able to stand their ground for what they believe in, regardless of expulsion. It's so surprising as well to see the stark difference in how we can protest freely now versus how persecuted those who opposed the government were.
Hi! My name is Ally Dillard and I am in your online class. I had never heard of this protest until I saw this post and started reading more into it. It was crazy to think that these are just young college students who know what they believe is right and wrong. These students were peacefully protesting and had major consequences for it. I would understand if they were being violent or destructive but that was not the case. They stood up for what they believed in and did it the correct way.
Hi, I'm Zoe C from your 11am class. What I found interesting about the University Star article was that the managing editor was removed from the article in hopes to silence journalists. It made me think about freedom of the press and how this violates the journalists rights. In the NPR interview, I found that the judge ruling that the students were interfering with the free-flow of educational process to be the most shocking, since this protest was very peaceful.
Hello, my name is Jamin GodwinAli and I am in your 11 AM class. It's fascinating to draw a parallel between the present and how the activist past of Texas State University is relevant today. An anti-Vietnam War protest by the San Marcos 10-a student group-highlights the influence that students have to define public discourse. Bravery and return for the 50th anniversary remind us of standing up for your conviction, especially at a time of crisis. The connections between past and present protests reveal how activism continues to be part and parcel with campus life, at the same time mirroring greater social issues. Listening to their stories shortly after 9/11 highlights how quickly activism shifts based on national events.
Hi, my name is Riley Andrus, and I am in your 3:30pm class.
The story of the San Marcos 10 is pretty powerful. These students were peacefully protesting the Vietnam War yet were punished so severely for standing up for what they believed in, especially since they weren’t violent or causing chaos. David Bayless' experience as a Vietnam vet hit hard, realizing the damage the U.S. was doing and feeling used. The others showed a lot of courage too, staying strong even when their families or friends didn’t agree. It’s frustrating that their case got shut down at every level, even with the Tinker v. Des Moines case supporting student speech. Listening to the NPR interview, right after 9/11, you can imagine how complicated it must’ve felt to talk about protesting in such a patriotic time.
Hello, my name is Christopher Cano and I am in your Mon/Wed class at 11 a.m. This is my first time hearing about the San Marcos 10, and their story fascinated me. Reading the University Star article in particular blew my mind away. I was shocked that they were expelled, especially since it was a peaceful protest, and hearing their NPR interview after all these years was truly inspiring. The fact that they continued to speak out about the Vietnam War even after being initially suspended must have took a lot of bravery. The interview being held only two months after 9/11 must've filled them with even more patriotic pride.
Hello my name is Sally P. and I am in your online class. After reading and listening about the San Marcos 10, it is clear that these individuals were made an example of by the government. I felt that the government wanted to keep protesters of the Vietnam War quiet, in order to keep Americans in the dark about what was really going on. I was particularly moved by Annie Burleson's experience. She mentioned in the interview that she knew that most of the young men she was protesting beside would be drafted soon after getting kicked out of school. I was moved by her choice to stay put, not only for the war, but for her right to protest. I was shocked and disappointed by the decision made by our University at the time. However, I feel that this situation has shed light on protesting at Texas State, and that we as a school were able to learn and grow from it.
Hi, my name is Destany Sanchez and I’m in your Monday/Wednesday class at 11 am. Honestly, I’m pretty shocked that students were suspended just for speaking up against the Vietnam War and the protests around 9/11. But then again, I can’t say I’m surprised—they did break the law since there weren’t any free speech zones on campus back then. It’s pretty surprising that the area where the Stallions serve as the free speech zone was only recently established; those should’ve been set up at the university back in the '60s and '70s. A lot of students shouldn’t have been suspended for protesting, especially since the university failed to create a free speech zone despite laws being passed around the time that allowed for it. It’s just mind-blowing that students were suspended just to push for making a zone. I'm really glad the recent protest about the war on Palestine near the Stallions didn’t impact students as much as it did back then.
Hi, I am in the online asynchronous class. I found it shocking in the NPR podcast how they were suspended because of the talk that was created of the protest. Would this not be a violation of their rights? They really didn't do anything wrong. I am also very disappointed they didn't win the case. I guess the silver lining is that they were able to get freedom of speech in public schools.
I liked hearing David Bayless’s perspectives because he had been a part of the war. It wasn’t until he got out of the military when he fully understood the ramifications of his actions. I find it sad that Bayless wasn’t able to walk across the stage to receive his diploma.
I also liked hearing Paul Cates and Al Henson's perspectives. I think it takes a lot to go against what your family believes in. There’s fear in the fact that they will be disappointed in you and no longer support you. But like many of the San Marcos Ten have shown, there’s this pull to do the right thing. Stand up for your beliefs.
I think it’s funny that Michael Holman’s quotes and actions brought light to a serious topic. I love how he expressed the love and patriotism he has for this country while also calling out people who are wrong (from his perspective).
I also enjoyed Murray Rosenwasser when he said, “ The important thing is to try and reach out to people who you disagree with–not hate people just because you disagree with them.” It’s important to try and understand different perspectives instead of shutting them out. It’s particularly relevant with the election coming up.
Overall, they were a part of many groups that revolutionized free speech on college campuses. I’m certain, that if this happened today, they would have won their case in court. Free speech is a huge topic today. Sometimes it’s used as a cop-out for more damaging situations but if this amendment right is exercised correctly, it can make for some interesting and eye-opening conversation.
My name is Hannah Schwartz, I am in the 11:00 am M/W class. This story of the San Marcos 10 is very shocking to me. I believe there was no need to suspend these students considering they were peacefully protesting. To think of the Texas State we attend now, that would never happen. It is crazy to imagine how different things were back then. When reading the article and seeing how each member of the 10 ended up after suspension and how their family reacted, I felt proud for them. They did an act that was so brave no matter their consequences. Hearing them talk in the video was very inspiring as well.
Hi, I am Marisol C., and I am in the 11 am class. I had never heard about the San Marcos 10 before, and my initial reaction was admiration. After reading the story, I could only think about what I would do in that situation. My initial thought was that I wouldn't have stayed if I had known that I would be suspended since the main reason I am in college today is because it has always been my parents' dream to be a college graduate. But soon after, I heard the interview and learned that they did not know their consequence would be suspension I now understand why they remained seated, and I would have remained seated as well if I thought we wouldn't have had that consequence. I admire them, but I also feel for the other protestors who stood up before the three minutes were up, they probably had other people depending on their academic careers and not only themselves. Protesting is all about getting your message heard, and I think they accomplished that even though they had to face injustices in their pathway, they remained loyal to their viewpoints, and that is something to admire.
MW 11:00am class
I find it fascinating that the school seems to make an effort to not give proper recognition to the San Marcos Ten. I feel like the government saw them as an easy target to use as an example for others to see what happens if we protest the War. Being a peaceful protest and they were STILL arrested is frustrating to hear and even more frustrating that justice will never be served to corrupt government individuals who are contesting our rights.
Chloe Brewer, 3:30 MW Class
I was fascinated after reading about the San Marcos 10 and listening to the interview. The protestors were not being allowed to exercise their First Amendment rights and it definitely hit too close to home knowing that it happened right here on campus. Like many of my classmates, I feel true admiration for those 10 students and believe that the university now makes several efforts to be inclusive and respectful of everyone's beliefs and rights, but it's very interesting to hear how it was handled all that time ago.
Leslie L, online class
Listening to the 2001 NPR interview with two of the San Marcos 10 adds a unique perspective, as it came just after the 9/11 attacks. The comparison between their Vietnam War-era activism and the post-9/11 political climate underscores how protests have historically shaped American discourse on war, dissent, and civil liberties. Both sources show the lasting importance of protest as a form of political expression.
Grace R. Online Class
First and foremost, this was such an eye-opening article because I never knew that a protest like this happened at Texas State during the Vietnam War era. Now I will pass the stallion statue on the way to class every time and I will think back to this article and what I learned. It is also fascinating to realize how these ten individuals were willing to lose everything just to be able to fight for what they believed in, and for that, I have so much admiration and respect for the San Marcos 10. Also, it was refreshing to see that after the students were suspended from Texas State and the judges in Texas were siding with the university, Supreme Court Justice Williams Douglas eventually sided with the students. And no matter how long it took, according to the recording, the students eventually got their degrees. Furthermore, analyzing this story makes me feel grateful for my rights and an unspoken duty to make sure I use them.
Hello, my name is Rod, and I’m in your 11 am. Learning about the San Marcos 10 was really interesting for me. I was impressed by how peaceful the protest was and how the students didn’t back down, even when they were threatened with suspension and losing their credits. It’s inspiring to see how united they were, despite coming from different backgrounds. David Bayless, a Vietnam veteran, stood out to me because he didn’t initially have an opinion on the war, but after serving and educating himself, he became a vocal anti-war protester. Their empathy toward those who left the protest and their commitment to staying despite being labeled "communists" or "cowards" really speaks to their character.
I also think it’s great that the city now has a day to honor them, but I was surprised there’s still no marker on campus where the protest took place. Their story deserves more recognition, especially for the impact it had on student activism and free speech. The San Marcos 10 showed that peaceful protest can lead to lasting change, and their bravery continues to inspire students today.
My name is Diego Medel and I am in the 11am class. I found this case interesting with its implication on protests in campus, especially in relation to the updated antisemitism policy recently passed by Greg Abbott and implemented here at the university, when it comes to anti-Israel protests on campus. I believe there is soon to be another protest due to the incursion in Lebanon, and i am interested in how the university and this new antisemitism policy will play out with anti-Israeli protesters on campus. While the US is not actively in the war like in Vietnam they are providing a lot of aid to Israel that has sparked anti-war sentiment. It is also interesting how the court of appeals ruled in favor of the school, even after the Tinker case and that the supreme court refused to even see the case when in my opinion it should have been dismissed using Tinker as evidence.
My name is Emily Googins and I am in your M/W 3:30 class. This is the first I have ever heard of the Sam Marcos 10 and I found it very interesting. I realized that students took the protest very seriously once they mentioned that expelled students could have been drafted soon after. I also found it interesting that the group had hearings and went to court and the judge decided to not allow them to protest. I thought it was sad that they didn't allow David Bayless to cross the stage after he returned to the university. I think this story is one that should be told to Texas State students more often.
Hello I am Jayden Henderson I am in your 11am class, I believe they should be more widely recognized to inspire future generations to exercise their right to free speech. One of the protestors, David Bayless, had served in the war, which makes his advocacy even more inspiring to me. They held their protest by the stallion statue on campus, the same spot where I often see people protesting various issues today. I imagine their efforts played a role in ensuring that speaking out for our beliefs on campus is no longer a punishable act!
My name is Josseline C. from your online class. The story of the San Marcos 10 is new to me, and I admire the courageous students standing firmly for what they believed in, despite being in a conservative state. I was most surprised at the strict repercussions and the muzzled journalists, especially when learning about the managing editor being forcefully removed. The fact that none of the participants regret their decisions 50 years after the incident speaks volumes. Had this happened today, I doubt the university would act similarly.
Hi I am Analysa Torres from your 11am class on Mondays and Wednesdays! I am glad that I got the opportunity to learn about the San Marcos 10. I believe we should have given more recognition to them somehow. I feel that their brave actions in protesting in such a difficult time, proves that as citizens what we do or don't say is very strong and powerful. I believe that the San Marcos 10 ruling should have been overturned, as a matter of fact we should protest for their ruling to be overturned in honor of them, we should give them the justice they deserve for the unfair consequences they faced.
Hello, this is Hector Santos from Monday's and Wednesday's 11 A.M. class. I think there are a lot of comparisons you could make between the protest back then and today here in Texas State University. The thing I find pretty interesting is that during the protest against Vietnam war (at least from what I heard from recording) was more centralized in bringing U.S soldiers back home, where as the protest today are against the war in favor of the people overseas. Obviously its not that simple but I think you could get that impression of the message purely on first viewing of each protest. All these protest today had happened in the stallion statue, otherwise known as the free speech area. I have heard of other protest around other universities being physically shut down (please don't take this as me saying this is fact, this is just from what I hear) but I so far I do not think Texas State University has had something like that occur and its because of that free speech area. Though as we learned in class about how the 1st Amendment is not always absolute and that each case is complicated, it makes me wonder how far you could push free speech in that area.
Hi, my name is Amber Daniels. I am in your 3:30 class. I have never heard of the San Marcos 10, so I am excited to be learning something new about the history of San Marcos. One thing I noticed is that the podcast focused more on personal thoughts and opinions, however, The University Star focused on the actual events that took place. I liked how the University Star gave a back story of each student involved.
After learning about the San Marcos 10 for the first time, I had such an appreciation for anyone willing to accept consequences that come with doing the right thing in an unaccepting environment. It's so hard to fight the system and protest, but I truly love anyone that is able to overcome the fear and stand up for what they believe in. I also love how they were able to come back and that the community, even years later, were able to respect their bravery. Addie Hicks 3:30 class.
My name is Madison Hanraads from the 11 a.m. class! It’s so interesting to see how Texas State students have handled protest and the expression for their desire for change. I think it’s incredibly brave for students to brandish their voices for the sake of things as pointed as anti-war sentiments. These sentiments are just as alive today as they were during the Vietnam war, as evidenced by Pro Palestine protests of 2023. I’m disappointed at the censorship students faced during such peaceful demonstrations.
Hi! My name is Bridget Price. I am in the online class. To start off, I have never heard of this event, reading this was the first time I have ever heard of this situation. Reading these articles, it reminded me of seeing a small peaceful protest for Palestine literally yesterday, so it's interesting to see how Texas State still hasn't changed much in terms of students here speaking out for what they believe. On the other hand, one can see how much the university has changed over time by the way that it reacts to these peaceful protest. I think if 10 students were to be kicked out of school or suspended for having a peaceful protest in this current society it would cause massive uproar. I think that the university nowadays wouldn't have reacted in such a strong manner by suspending those kids. If it was truly a peaceful protest nowadays, they would just let the kids continue as long as it's not a danger to anyone or a massive disruption. I really liked being able to read and listen to the points of view of the students who were actually involved in the protest and what they did afterward or leading up to that or even if they ever returned to Texas State. Understanding that this follows closely to 9/11 can give some content to maybe why the school acted in an extreme manner. I'm not sure if I missed it somewhere or not but I wonder if Texas State ever apologized for this or made some type of public statement. This also makes me wonder how much publicity this was gathering during the time of it happening, or if there even was any, or if there was any backlash towards the school because of its harsh decision to kick those students out of classes. Overall, it is a very interesting story, and I like to see the history of Texas State that our culture of standing up for what we believe in hasn't changed.
Hi this is Allister J Suber from your online class. I think that it is interesting that I had never heard of these events until now and i find it very interesting how the narrative has shifted at Texas State since the Vietnam War. I think that it took a lot more back then to get out and say something, especially since they mentioned many of the men could be automatically drafted if they got kicked out of college. Nowadays I think the narrative has shifted since being anti war isn't as much of a controversial thing to say, but it's interesting to see that during these times it was very condemned amongst their fellow students. I think that it is great that there is a day to honor them but at the same time I think that there should be more awareness on the fact, especially in the many wars and conflicts that have happened since then including the conflicts that occurred after 9/11.
Hi! My name is Evelin Varela from the 11 a.m. class. It amazes me how Texas State is filled with so many historical events that I learn of everyday. I've never hear of the San Marcos 10 until now and whenever I will pass by the fighting stallions that's all that's going to come to mind. One thing that impresses me the most is people having the bravery to protest in what they believe in. How each one them believed in something (against the war) and stuck with it no matter how others saw them. Mostly because they were seeing first hand what it was causing those who went to war and what it was doing to the people of Vietnam.
My name is Eric Ulmer, in your 4301.080 class. I'm surprised that I've never heard the story of the San Marcos 10 before. I'm also very surprised that the students were expelled for exercising their First Amendment right. To me, this story just seems completely unfair, free speech is guaranteed by the Constitution. I don't believe that anything like this story could happen in the modern day, there would be such a massive rebuttal against the university. This story overall makes me feel proud of the societal social advancements that we have achieved in the United States, even within the past 60 years.
Kaden B. 3:30 class. After hearing what was said about the ruling in court, I am shocked that they put the blame and conviction on the San Marcos 10 for disrupting the educational process. It is clear they were not responsible for the actions of those that disagreed with their protest. The ones that were not being peaceful and were disrupting educational process were the students in disagreement of the protest. The University should have asked for those that disagreed to allow the peaceful protest to continue. Sad to hear it never made it to the Supreme Court because I think it would have been a different story.
Khalilah W from the online class. While I’m not surprised that a protest of this nature took place on campus, this was my first time learning about the story. Unlike some of the other students, I’m not surprised that this story isn’t celebrated or more widely distributed by the university as a moment of historical significance, because this university’s history is one filled with staunch conservative values and oppression. In fact, it was just six years prior to the protest that the university chose to integrate; many years after other schools had already done so. The fact that the San Marcos 10 weren’t expelled rather than suspended, was the only surprise. The length of the suspension coupled with the loss of credit for the protest year seemed to have been enough of a deterrent to keep most of them from returning however.
Hi! My name is Jasmine Lozoya (M/W 11 A.M.). Before now, I had never heard of this story and I find it incredibly inspirational and motivating. When watching the NPR broadcast of the interviews the host mentions the fact that Texas State is the alma mater of President LBJ who was at the front line of most of the Vietnam War. In that moment, it really puts into perspective just how close to home this was for these students, especially the two gentlemen that served during the war. These individuals sacrificed so much to spread an important message and demand change in the world they we were living in. Since I have attended Texas State, I have always known how important the stallions are to campus and hearing this story of the 10 individuals who fought to make them what they are today is heartwarming. Knowing that it had not always been the 1st amendment protector that is now grants even more appreciation for it. In addtition, The University Star touches on how not only was the freedom to protest put at risk here but, also the freedom of press. The drastic difference from the restrictions and consequences placed on them at the time compared to the phenomenal stories they are to this day publishing. Lastly, now in my generation, in 2024, Texas State students are using the monument that these 10 students granted us to fight for Palestine. To demand a change in the world we live in just like the San Marcos 10.
Hello, my name is Sydney Stribling, and I am in your Monday/Wednesday 3:30 class. First, I had never heard about this case/protest before, so I found it very intriguing to learn about something that happened at Texas State University that I wasn't aware of. Second, I find it disheartening that the students, who were peacefully protesting as stated in the audio, were suspended for simply expressing their feelings without being hateful or putting anyone in danger. Lastly, I think this story is very inspiring, especially when we see how similar events continue to happen in today’s world. What these individuals did was bold and brave, and I truly admire them.
Hello, my name is Christina Saenz. I am in your Monday/Wednesday 3:30 pm class. It’s inspiring to see how the San Marcos 10 used their voices in a time when speaking out against the Vietnam War was so controversial. Their courage to stand firm in their beliefs, even when facing suspension and expulsion, shows the power of civil disobedience. I find it interesting how their actions not only impacted the campus back in 1969 but continue to resonate today, especially in light of recent student protests. What stands out to me the most is how these students, particularly veterans, used their personal experiences to inform their activism. It’s a reminder of how peaceful protests can create lasting change without resorting to violence. The comparison between the article and the NPR broadcast also made me think about how media can shape our understanding of events differently depending on the platform.
Hi my name is Azuli Rodriguez and I am in the 11am class. The University star article held a bigger tone of remembrance, by re-accounting everyone's stories and displaying their portraits by the stallion statue. The NPR recording definitely asked the question "what happens next" in means of how the United states was going to respond to the 9/11 attacks. Two very different moods helped to distinguish each other due to the mediums, photos vs audio, and the time frames, 2019 versus 2001.
Hi, my name is Ivy Murph and I am in the M/W 11am class. I have a lot of respect for the San Marcos 10 who continued to share their beliefs despite the backlash they received from fellow students, families, and administration. This shows the importance of free speech, peaceful protest, and the courage to stand up for what you believe in. Even though the group was small they were still able to make an impact in the community and inspired others to speak out against the war. A University should be a place for open dialogue and critical thinking which contradicts their response.
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My name is Ella Starke and I am in your online class. As someone who has participated in dozens of peaceful protests, I am incredibly proud of these individuals for utilizing their First Amendment rights and voicing their concerns regarding the war in Vietnam. By voicing your beliefs regarding something as important as war, you will find yourself surrounded by a community of people who can organize and hopefully enact change. I find it disheartening in cases when people, particularly students, are punished for participating in a nonviolent protest. I think of students at UT this past year who were suspended or expelled for protesting against what’s happening in Gaza, especially when there was no violent intent. I think it’s interesting that in the attached article we see how many of these students are self-described patriots and I completely agree with them. I think in many ways people interpret protest as a sign of going against our country, but in many ways, I think it’s a sign of fighting to be on the right side of history. We want to see our country care for others and show up the way we would hope others would if we needed it. Overall, this was a very wonderful thing to learn more about!
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My name is Alexis T. and I am in your M/W 11.am class.
I am shocked this story is not discussed more across Texas State. So many historical events happen at this university, and it surprises me, the stories are very interesting. I am amazed how Texas State has changed. During the peaceful protest in 1969, 10 students were left suspended after not obeying while being directed to leave. However, now, free speech and peaceful protests are things encouraged at Texas State University. I am disappointed that these students, during the time, were frowned upon by members and the community of the university. Thankfully, now these members have a day in San Marcos dedicated towards their brave actions and their dedication for a better environment. Losing the cases and the consequences of their actions were upsetting at the time, but Texas State has greatly changed over the years.
Whether you agree or not with the decisions made, it's important to recognize that everyone has different perspectives, especially considering the context of the times. The Vietnam War was a highly controversial conflict, and many people felt strongly about it on both sides. While the San Marcos 10 believed they were standing up for a just cause, others might have seen their actions as disruptive or disrespectful.
The interviews conducted two months after 9/11 add another layer of complexity. In the wake of such a tragic event, national unity and patriotism were at an all-time high, and harsh opinions might have seemed out of place or even unpatriotic to most. The context of 9/11 likely influenced how people viewed protests and activism, making it a challenging environment for those who wanted to express a difference of opinion.
It's also worth considering that the actions of the San Marcos 10 had long-term consequences for their own lives. They faced suspension and expulsion, which no doubt affected their overall futures. While you might not agree with their methods or their stance, understanding the personal sacrifices they made can offer you a more significant view of their protest even if you are like me and didn’t really support what they did because of what they faced in the end.
In the end, it's okay to have differing opinions about historical events and the actions of those involved. What's important is to engage with these topics thoughtfully and respectfully, recognizing the complexity of the issues and the diverse perspectives that people may hold.
Grace Raborn(3:30pm class)
Hi this is Mason Soileau from the 11am class. I found this situation to be shocking especially since not only were they suspended but barred from any Texas university. Along with that they were still thrown out even after the supreme court ruling of Tinker v. Des Moines. I loved how the interview showed that history repeats itself and that David Bayless could see similarities that lead to them protesting. I feel as though this case taught me that restriction of free speech happens everywhere even in San Marcos. I think differing opinions is important. Just as the San Marcos 10 displayed so that everyone doesn't just fall victim to the silent masses and can give some pushback and stand up for what they believe in. The San Marcos 10 are a good display of pushing back even in the face of harm because it is your given right. I think their loss has lead to much growth and development for free speech on college campuses especially Texas State University.
My name is Marley T. and I am in the online class. I find it odd that I have not heard this story on campus before. Texas State is known for our symbol of freedom, the Fighting Stallions statue that was built in the early 1950s, so it shocks me that 10 students were expelled during a peaceful and very nonviolent protest in 1969 over a few words and blatant disobedience. Texas State students were encouraged to share their feelings and opinions at the statue and although the Vietnam War was a touchy subject for the country to deal with, expulsion was definitely not the answer, and in my opinion, made things worse.
Reese Z, Online Class
I know there is a history during war times of the government not wanting talk from the public, but it is a violation of the first amendment. In this situation, the students were participating in free speech and peaceful protest. I think the one thing that really shocked me was listening to the NPR report and hearing that the San Marcos 10 were being blamed for the disturbance even though it was the students around the 10 that were causing the disturbance.
My name is Georgia Weeks, I am in you rMC 4301.001 that meets from 3:30 to 4:50 p.m. Monday and Wednesday. I had no idea about the San Marcos 10. I think everyone has a right to their opinion and they were expressing freedom of speech and doing a peaceful protest is awesome. However, this is still a protest on school grounds, if it is causing people to be distracted instead of get the education they are paying for, then they should take their protest and move it off campus. I think there is no reason to do a protest on school grounds, what are they expecting to get out of this? For the dean himself to stop a war? For all the students to join their protest then do what?
Hi, My name is Eric S, I am in your MC4301 that meets at 11am Mon & Wed. I never knew about the 10, I found it interesting to hear all their stories and opinions and how they didn't know each other at all but still stood as one for what they believed in. I think adding the context of being recording after 9/11 adds more context to it and understanding for maybe how the university may have reacted back in the day because I feel like if this would've happened following 9/11 the outcome probably would've still been the same, I don't think the year suspension was really what should've been done but I can understand it can be a sensitive topic to deal with for some people especially in hard times they see people who protest as against them.
Hey, I'm Tyron(Ty) T, 3:30 p.m. class. I never heard or seen anything about the San Marcos 10, but it was profound to read and hear about their views and stories about protesting and the punishment they got for following the law. Goes to show that the Truth needs to be set free, but you will definitely piss people off.
Hey, I'm Wilfred F I am in your 11:00 a.m. class. I had no idea about the San Marcos 10, It is interesting to learn about their protest and movement that led them to get suspended because they were letting their voices be heard and the school didn't approve of that at the time. The stories they share show how they were formed and what caused them to be kicked out for making their statement.
Jayden C
11 a.m.
I am shocked that I never heard about this since being on campus. I was confused how the 10 students were suspened from school, if it there was no harm done by the 10 students.
Hey, I'm Sydney W. from your online class. This is the first time I've ever heard about the San Marcos 10. The students were protesting against the Vietnam war in a peaceful manner yet their futures were disrupted briefly because the government did not agree with their views. The judge made his ruling based on interference with the free flow of education. After reading the article, in context after 9/11 , it highlighted how difficult it is have a difference of opinion in the heighten of Patriotism and sensitivity surrounding such issues.
Hi I am Sophia G. from the Monday/Wednesday class at 3:30pm. Before reading this article I never heard of the "San Marcos 10". I found it really interesting to read about what happened and how they did not know each other at first but after this protest, everything changed. It was interesting to hear about their stories. It was inspiring that they still stood up for what they believed in even after so many people left. The context of 9/11 likely influenced how people viewed protests and activism, making it a challenging environment for those who wanted to express a difference of opinion. When looking at this it is okay to have different opinions about historical events and the actions of those involved. What is important is to remember these things happen and understand the different perspectives people have.
Hi, my name is Cristian Rodriguez, I am in your Online Class. Before this post I never heard of the "San Marcos 10", so thank you for sharing their stories, I find it interesting that they were put down for a protest to a war that was in their own opinion pointless. Times are now very different and protest on campus is not uncommon. With the current war in the middle east, there are many protests and speaking's on campus that followed the San macros 10, but it is more accepted now on campus. Back then the San Marcos 10 did not receive fair treatment, while I feel like in today's world, freedom of speech is practiced and protected more often than not.
Hi! My name is Aly D. I am in the 11am class on Monday/Wednesday. I had never heard of San Marcos 10 so it was interesting and inspiring to read these stories. I also like how they were using their rights with the first amendment. It was just disappointing to hear the outcomes. I like how this shows how important our rights are as times are changing. It is always good to be reminded that everyone has the right to freedom of speech.
My name is Camilo M. and I am in your 3:30 class. I was surprised to learn this information and also surprised I haven't heard about it until today. I think that the action taken after the protest was unnecessary. The students were being peaceful and no violence occurred. To suspend them from 1 year and dismiss credits was not justified in my eyes, especially when you had a Vietnam veteran student taking place and being part of the "Standing 10." I think it is a nice gesture to celebrate their history.
My name is London P. and I am in your 11 am monday/ Wednesday class. Until today, I did not know who the San Marcos 10 were, but after hearing their story, I feel that they should have a lot more notoriety than they do. It takes a lot of bravery and strength to not only be able to expression your opinion on such a harboring topic so publicly, but to also stand face to those who threaten something as grand an expulsion for having the courage.
Hey, I’m Kaidence Dolan from your 11 a.m. class! I thought it was really interesting how the San Marcos 10 showed the impact of student activism back then and still inspires people today. The fact that they were willing to protest, even with the risks they faced, really highlights how important it is to stand up for what you believe in, especially during uncertain times. It’s amazing how their actions continue to connect with today’s activism and have helped shape an environment where free speech is so important. I agree with what Ashley said—having them come back for the 50th anniversary is such a strong reminder that these issues are still relevant, and it’s crucial for us to learn from their legacy and be part of conversations about social justice now.
This is Ashlee Hawkins, a student in the 3:30PM section of the course! I was just very impressed by the heart of the students, being willing to stand up despite consequences from the school and scrutiny from their peers--and doing so without judgement of those who were not willing to face the same. I think reflecting on that allows current students to make space to advocate for their own beliefs, find a community within that and to stand strong. I think the contrast between the materials just goes to show how time can shift perspective, but how human's innate sense of justice is consistent over time, and how those brave enough to stand up for what they believe in inspires others
Leslie Munguia - 11am Class. After reading both article and listening to the recording, I can truly say that I solute them for standing up and using their freedom of speech right. Although they had to face some unfair consequences, they stood up for themselves and came back. I am also glad that TXST added the "Fighting Stallions" as a freedom of speech area for anyone to come and express themselves on campus
My name is Zackary Martinez, and I am in your Monday/Wednesday class at 11:00 a.m. Prior to this reading and blog post, I had no knowledge of the San Marcos 10 and their peaceful protest in 1969. Tensions regarding the Vietnam War were on high alert, but currently, I find it interesting that the students were not only expelled but they were barred from attending any Texas university because of their disobedience. I believe now there is a societal encouragement that pushes people to share their feelings and emotions on political issues, but I understand that over 50 years ago the country was in a much different position. Both of my grandfathers served in the Vietnam War and the San Marcos 10 makes me want to ask them how they would've felt regarding the protest and their thoughts on the punishment given. The sacrifices made by the San Marcos 10 had exponential effects on their futures and if I was asked to protest by the Fighting Stallions statue by a good group of friends, I do not know what I would do. I believe that people should stand up for what they believe but be cognizant of the repercussions their actions might bring. I think in 2024 it is shocking or unfair to some peoples' point of view because right now we are pushed to fight for what we believe, but without growing up in the Vietnam War era, where there were different rules and societal norms, I think putting people in that position would be difficult for a lot of people
My name is Chloe Mercado, I attend your MW 3:30 p.m. classes. I have never formally heard about the "San Marcos 10", and it was very interesting and mind-opening reading their stories. It was shocking seeing that these students were not only suspended, but barred from attending any university in Texas, for exercising their rights of free speech. This case is very similar to the one in our discussion post last week, how in some situations our right to freedom of speech can become restricted.
My name is Austin B and I am in you online class. This San Marcos 10 is the first time I have ever heard of this is because I am not originally from Texas. I can understand why the Dean would stop them so quickly for their protest as I went to a private Christian college for my first degree. Stuff like this is quickly stopped so it doesn't tarnish the reputation of the school. Since a president alma mater and somewhere that was so safe you can send your daughter, there at that time period was giving so much news makes sense the way they treated it. My reaction to what happens at that time is not very surprising for how strict of a time period it was back then. They had no problem trample on people's rights of protest. I think Texas State owed a lot to those individuals after the war ended and the communist still ended up taking over Vietnam. Everyone should be heard even though you don't like what they are saying they have a right to express it.
My name is Garrett Poor and i am in your MW 3:30 class. This is the first time I ever heard of the san marcos 10 and im suprised for having been here so long it never was brought up until this class. And i don't really understand why they were expelled i feel like that's a bit over the top. But i do understand putting a stop to it because you could upset a person who's family member might have died in that war and it could lead to something bigger so i'm sure texas state didn't want that publicity on their hands.
My name is Chris A. and I am in your MW 11:00 a.m. class. After hearing about the San Marcos 10, I have to appreciate the boldness and dedication to the right thing. Although these students suffered the consequence, they also set the precedence for every student after them. It is because of them that spaces like the Stallions on campus exist allowing students and others to publicly speak their minds.
Hi this is Peyton Bragg and I am in your 3:30 Monday/Wednesday class. I did not know about the San Marcos 10 until after reading the article. I really enjoyed reading g each person’s reasoning for joining the protest efforts and why they refused t0o leave the scene. The person I related to the most was Paul Cates. I really resonated with how he made peach with his decision to stay at the protest the night before.
Hey, it's Kaiden Sullivan from the 11 a.m. class. I never knew about the San Marcos 10, I wish we learned more about the campus history in school. Anyway, I thought it was amazing that they stood up for what was right in this case even though it resulted in them being suspended from their university. It's the message and impact this left behind rather than what the actual ruling was at the time that is important. Especially with the interview in 2001 shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks how there would definitely be students in David & Annie's positions supporting or against the war. Regardless of their side, still having the right to express themselves is always important, as long as it is done following all the correct rules, time and place, etc. Again, unfortunate that the students were suspended for this, but their legacy left a life long messags for many future generations
Hi I'm Sky Munoz from the asynchronous Online class. As a News Reporter who works at The University Star, I remember hearing about the San Marcos 10 through other reporters and then again when the Opinions section wrote an article reminding students to remember the San Marcos 10 during the Palestine protest in May. One of the facets I had never really considered until I listened to the NPR report was how the males at the San Marcos 10 were not only being brave just through risking suspension but how they were also risking the potential of being drafted due to that suspension. I think it was really powerful for veterans of the Vietnam war to also make their statement against the war as well. I also thought it was very ironic that despite the protestors not doing anything, the protest was shut down because of the disturbance caused by the counter-protestors, yet the counter protestors were not the ones suspend.
My name is Lauren Mc and I am in the 11:00am class. This is my first time reading about the San Marcos 10. I find this story quite inspiring, especially reading about each of the 10 and all of their different backgrounds. I think this story is a prime example of how people can come from completely different lives and cultures and bond over something important to them. I think peaceful protests should always be protected. As long as protesters aren’t causing disruption in any way, let them be. It seems that some of the 10 were very nervous about getting in trouble either with the law , school, or their own parents. I think their display of bravery and standing up for what they believe in is remarkable and it reminds us of the importance of freedom of speech and having the room to have your own opinions and beliefs.
My name is Samuel Clakley from the 11am class. While I have never heard this story before, I feel like I can draw parallels from some recent on campus protesting stories. For example, I have a few friends that go to UT who were on campus during the Palestine protests. While no students (at first) showed any sign of aggression, a full riot squad showed up on campus, turning the peaceful protest into a protest full of aggression and fear.
My name is Kylie Adams from the 11:00 am class. It was truly inspiring reading and listening about the San Marcos 10, as I had not previously heard about this protest. I do not believe those students deserved to be suspended for a year, but I understand the University's concern because violence could have occurred. However, the San Marcos 10 had a right to peacefully protest, and their actions illustrated bravery and integrity. I loved how all of them were understanding of the protestors who ended up leaving for their own reasons and did not show any resentment toward them. These students embodied strength, to say the least.
Hi, I'm Ximena Garcia from the 11 a.m. class. Although I've never heard about the San Marcos 10, I find what they did very powerful and brave. They stood for what they believed in, no matter the consequences. I like how in the article we could learn about what compelled the San Marcos 10 to join the protest. What I found shocking from the NPR report was how one of the San Marcos 10 could attend Texas State University again after they were prohibited from attending any university in Texas. Still, they didn't let him walk the stage, but instead mailed him his diploma.
My name is John Taper I attend your MW 3:30 p.m. in person class. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 before, and learning about their stories was eye-opening. It was shocking to see that these students were not only suspended but also banned from attending any university in Texas, simply for exercising their right to free speech. Especially during a time where a lot of people all around our country didn’t agree with the Vietnam war. I truly admire their courage in standing up for their beliefs, despite the severe consequences. This case closely mirrors the one we discussed last week, where we explored how, in certain situations, our freedom of speech can be restricted.
My name is Alice Myers and I am in your 3:30 M/W class. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 before, but reading about their impact was very inspiring. I think more people should read about them to learn the impact that utilizing our free speech has. It is evident that student protests have a huge influence on the public and that this stands even today. I also think it is important to acknowledge how different events, such as 9/11, change the activist scene.
My name is Mekiyah Marquez and I attend your MW 3:30pm class. I've been aware of the San Marcos 10 but I never really knew their story. All I knew before seeing the article and broadcast was that they were a group of people who protested the Vietnam war on the Texas State campus. It's good to see that students now are able to protest without the repercussions that the members of the San Marcos 10 experienced back then.
Hello, my name is D'Aaron Castle from your 11 a.m. class. Reading about the San Marcos 10 was already interesting enough as is. But hearing some of the participants speak out about the incident makes it even more interesting. Hearing David Bayless speak out about how he knew he would potentially get kicked out of school, but still protested, showed just how important this matter was to them. I feel that their actions were correct as they were not causing any harm to others. The punishment was a bit unjust as they were exercising their freedom of speech in what I believe was a peaceful manner.
My name is Briana Garcia from your 11am course on Mondays and Wednesdays. I am extremely interested in learning more about this protest and others that have happened here at Texas State University. Both the article and podcast give two perspectives of what happened to these students for expressing their freedom of expression, and how Texas State University and the state as a whole wronged these students. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 until reading this article and it really opened my eyes to a different side of the past of this campus, I can not imagine the impact these students faced having to be suspended from school at Texas State University and not be able to attend a university in Texas at all for a year. This truly goes to show how much law and enforcement has changed over the years and how we are now free to express our opinions without discrimination or disciplinary actions taken on us students. I will say these students set the path for our campus now, just like in the article it mentions the freedom stallion, where most protests and marches take place on our campus. In just this semester I have seen 3 protests take place there with peace and respect, compared to what those San Marcos 10 endured. Extremely interesting history to read into further.
My name is Kevin Montiel-Rivera. I'm in the 11:00 a.m. class. I found it interesting learning about the San Marcos 10. Seeing the group reunited 50 years later taking pictures at the Stallion statue was nice to see. It is insane to learn that they simply exercising their first amendment right but were punished severely. In today's world there are many protests similar that happen against war. The San Marcos 10 are brave for standing for what they believed was right.
My name is Erin Kirkwood and I’m in your 11 am class. Like my fellow classmates I had no idea that the San Marcos 10 was a thing, but their journey was interesting to read about. It was nice to see that they had an everlasting impact, but still sad to know that they got treated the way they did. It’s so different to how a protest would be now. They are also so inspiring because they did it alone and scared and made good use of the first amendment.
My name is Jessica G and I am in your 11 a.m. class. I had no prior knowledge about the San Marcos 10. It was interesting to learn about their story and what they stood for. I believe that those 10 students were able to create a pathway for current students, when it comes to protesting and just sharing what you believe in. These students faced suspension from the school for sharing their beliefs on campus, clearly that didn't stop them at all. I believe that what they did was their right to the first amendment and shared others that they could too. It's interesting to see that students back then were impacted for using their first amendment right and now we have the ability to share our thoughts and beliefs on campus without those certain impacts.
Hello, this is Chris S. from your Mon/Wed 11AM class. After reading the article and listening to the NPR broadcast, it's clear that the San Marcos 10's protest against the Vietnam War was a huge deal. They faced serious consequences for their activism, showing how powerful student voices can be. Their return for the 50th anniversary reminds us of the importance of standing up for what we believe in. It’s inspiring to see how history shapes our current movements.
My name is Devin Shannon I am in your 11 a.m. class, I have never heard of the San Marcos 10 until listening to that broadcast. The protesting rights for students are important and it was very insightful to how the student population viewed the Vietnam war and the draft. Having the ability to protest war's and government choices has always been available to the modern student so it's surprising to learn that students were suspended in the past for something we take for granted. Students should pay respects to the brave 10 students who chose to stand strong and speak out against what they felt was wrong.
My name is Michael Thompson, I am in your 11 am MW class. I actually never knew about the San Marcos 10 until the NPR poadcast. It was very informative about how students saw the Vietnam War after the draft and how they were able to protest with their first amendment right and stand up to what they believed in. Students should learn more about the San Marcos 10 and learn what they did when they knew something was wrong.
My name is heather Waters and I am in your MW 3:30pm class. The article and podcast surprised me because I had never previously heard of the San Marcos 10. I feel like their actions are very powerful and inspiration and more Texas State students should know/learn about them! I feel like it is especially relevant now with all of the conflict and war going on right now. it can show students the power and the voice that they have.
My name is Mac Blackwell, and I'm in the MW 3:30 class. This was my first experience hearing about the San Marcos 10, despite this being my second year at the university. Interestingly, they could not find any legal success despite being in a very similar situation to the Tinker case. I think the key difference is that multiple of the SM10 speak about how the crowd around them was growing violent when the dean stepped in and gave them the ultimatum. I could see a reasonable argument that while the students themselves were not a possible disruption to campus functions, the reaction of the other students were becoming one, and thus school authorities meet the standard for suppressing their 1st amendment rights under the tinker test.
Hello my name is Sydney Schertz and I am in the Monday-Wednesday 3:30 class. This was the first time I had heard of the San Marcos 10 and I feel like their process was very interesting and eye opening. The students protesting for what they believe in was very interesting and impactful in regards to the freedom of speech.
Hi! I’m Grace Wartman - I’m in your MW 3:30. It’s refreshing to see that the San Marcos 10’s impact still remains a topic in conversation today. The takeaways from their actions are extremely valuable and still applicable today; still something people should consider inspiring today.
I admire the courage of the ten who remained despite the backlash they received. Their empathy was evident when others left; they understood and didn’t hold it against those who departed, even years later. It’s important for people to recognize that they aren’t powerless and that their voiced concerns deserved to be heard, and stories like the one of the San Marcos 10 serve as a reminder of that.
Hi! I'm Briana Esquilin in your Monday Wednesday 11am Monday Wednesday class. This is my first time hearing about the San Marcos 10, since I've been here. Their actions are impactful and inspiring to this day, and helps motivate others to voice their opinions.
Howdy I’m Aiden Gardner in your MW 3:30 class. This is not the first time I had heard of the San Marcos 10, they were briefly mentioned in another of my courses last spring. While I do admire their courage and commend their protest, I would’ve sided with them regarding their Vietnam Was stance as well. However, I don’t see the point of it, especially with the consequences they faced. Why rush expulsion for something that, yes, may be wrong, but no matter what you do or say the outcome won’t be affected in the slightest.
Isaiah Koch, 3:30 class
The san marcos 10 never stopped standing up for what they believed. Its great seeing how far student rights have come, these people laid the foundation for protests and freedom of speech for students and protestors during the vietnam war. Looking back on it im sure they are proud and would do it again. They didnt stop the war, but the inspired and lead a change equally as important for free speech rights.
Hello, I'm Ashley A from your 3:30pm class. I personally was not aware of the San Marcos 10 but reading about it is surprising and intriguing. Protesting about something they believed they felt was wrong shows how strong and dedicated these students were. Having recognition and respect is the least we can do. Having a voice is important because it can change things and circumstances.
Brayden Burchfield, 3:30 p.m. class
Like many others, I had yet to know about the San Marcos 10, but their story was fascinating. It was great to see their lasting impact, though it’s unfortunate how they were treated. Their courage is really inspiring, especially since they stood up on their own, fearful yet determined, and made powerful use of their First Amendment rights. I think this highlights how crucial it is for the public to understand their rights, and that meaningful change requires active involvement and support.
Hello, my name is Alexis Orr and I am in your online class. I am shocked that this was the first time I have ever heard about the story of the San Marcos 10. I thought it was such a remarkable thing that the San Marcos 10 did not know each other when they decided not to leave after the three minute warning. They did not know each other, but they knew how they felt about the war. It was such a powerful thing for them to stand up for their beliefs together, as strangers. I found it interesting that David Bayless mentioned in the interview that he could see the same type of situation that happened in 1969 happening again in 2001 given the division about the current wars occurring then. It was great to read that the 10 who are still with us can still stand firm and be proud of their decision to protest on that day in 1969.
My name is Kennedi Williams and I have your asynchronous online class. I wasn't aware of the San Marcos 10 prior to this post. I thought it was interesting for Paul Cates to say he was sure they’d be kicked out of school even prior to the protest happening. Even though he anticipated harsh consequences, he didn't let it stop him from supporting what he believed in. I think they should be honored for their bravery. It takes a vast amount of courage to stand firm in your beliefs while receiving backlash from family, friends and peers amongst those called out by President Nixon. I see this story as a moment of reflection. Texas State is so different now and I think K Damp has created such a safe space where everyone can be heard. I couldn't imagine today's students being expelled for a peaceful demonstration of protest.
First off, I had no idea who the San Marcos 10 were. Very cool to hear about Texas State heroes who aren't George Strait. Standing up for oneself is a very hard thing to do especially when all the odds are against you. The correlation I drew the most is that history does tend to repeat itself. When the time comes and the need for the people to stand for what they believe is right. we can remember those that came before us such as the Texas State 10.
Paulina P and I'm in your 11 am class. I didn't know about the San Marcos 10 until your class. I also didn't know that they got expelled I thought they would just get suspended. I think it's really great that they came back after the 50th aniversary of the protest. Protesting about this and how it was a group of people who didn't know eachother but had eachothers backs is amazing to see. I think they did a great thing standing up for their First Amendment rights and had a lot of courage to do what they did.
Hi this is Jordan Sedillo. I am in your online class. I found the reading of the San Marcos 10 interesting as I have never heard of them before I’m glad they stood up for what they believed was right and you can see that it has had a “cultural” impact on Texas State as we still protest here. I think it’s kind of crazy how they were threatened to be expelled as in the modern times peaceful protests are allowed here and welcomed as we are able to voice our opinions without worry.
Hello all! I',m Emily Steger, I'm in the MW 3:30 class. I find the example set by this group of students incredibly inspiring. Their willingness to risk suspension and the potential loss of credits in their pursuit of truth reflects remarkable courage and integrity. It illustrates that standing up for one’s beliefs, even in the face of punitive actions, can lead to significant change and a stronger push for the freedoms we all deserve. It’s incredible how their actions continue to resonate with today’s activism and have fostered an environment where free speech is essential!
Hi, this is Donovan Byrd, I'm in the MW 3:30 - 4:50 class. I wasn't aware of the San Marcos 10 until reading up on them for this blog. I don't believe they're talked about enough on campus and will be sure to tell my friends about them. They're heroes who stood up for what was right when nobody else would and got an unfair punishment for it.
Hi, I'm Sydney Allen from the online class. I hade never heard of the San Marcos 10 before reading these articles and I think it should be something more talked about. They were willing to risk many factors to stand up for what they believed in. Our campus is very transparent about ensuring the students have free speech and I think this was one of inspiring factors for this belief.
Hi, I'm Quint Nevitt, I am in the M/W 3:30-4:50 class. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10, and I think they should be recognized more. They stood up for what they believed in and didn't back down after being threatened with suspension and expulsion, which was very courageous of them. These students were not allowed to exercise their First Amendment rights which can really strike a nerve with many people including myself.
I'm Zoe Smith from the 11 am class. After reading and hearing the story of the San Marcos 10, I believe that the students should not have been suspended. Although it is understandable that they might have unknowingly caused disruptions; they were not exactly the direct cause. These students were participating in a silent protest, which I don't believe should have a time limit on it. I do wish the United States Supreme Court had reviewed their case, as I am interested in knowing what the outcome would be.
Hello, Im Malyn Barnes in your online class! I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 until now. They are brave for going against the grain, knowing their could be consequences and i applaud them. It’s disheartening that the university didn’t celebrate their use of the first amendment and chose to shun them. I believe in standing up for your opinion and making use of the first amendment, so seeing former bobcats do this makes me feel pride.
Kenna G. 11 a.m. class
Reading this article and listening to the interview actually made me kind of emotional. Standing up for something that you believe in is very important to me personally and just hearing about the strength that it took for the San Marcos 10 to do that is so empowering to hear. I am shocked that their case kept getting thrown out despite the ruling of Tinker v. Des Moines but that just shows how strong they were to push through the struggles after the unfair treatment.
Aden L. 11a.m. class
After reading this article I feel that the decision to suspend the San Marcos 10 was a decision made based on the nationalist attitudes at the time. I feel that the attitudes you can observe and experience at these times are ones that we today are still dealing with I liked the quote from the NPR segment the guy said the attitudes at the time were " America love it or leave it". My reaction to this whole incident is that the suspension of the students and the censorship of the university star are unconstitutional and that any administration that would make these choices is an administration that needs to be dissolved.
My name is Charity Cobbs and I am in the 11am class.
After taking the time to read this article I do not think the students should have been penalized by their class credits for standing up for what they believe. In my eyes they did not cause any harm because no one was hurt and the protest seemed to not cause any problems on campus. The students were just simply trying to promote their beliefs and spread awareness, essentially for the war going on at that time. They wanted to make a difference that is why they thought enough to protest. I think that to a certain extent, peaceful protests should be encouraged.
I’m Amy Nunez in the online section. The 10 protesters took a stand for what they believed in despite the harsh consequences and marked history in the Texas State campus. Protest on university campuses create noise that helps students learn from history and understand different points of views. It also creates a path for more students to act on what they believe is the right thing. The protest act as a catalyst to create more conversation and make change. The 10 protesters left their impact on the Texas State campus despite their expulsion that was such a hard consequence despite having freedom of speech and protest. After listening to the NPR podcast I got a more of an understanding. The timing plays a big factor especially when some of the world is dealing with losses and grief. The attitudes of the war are shifting due to anger and grief. It shows how the political can views shift based on activism or stuff happening around the country. This is relevant today because of the war happing in the West Bank. We see students protesting their beliefs and it creates conversation. They also had hard consequences like arrest but even some faculty stood by students and it’s shows their courage by risking their future to stand for what is right.
Coty G. 3:30 p.m. class
The San Marcos 10 had a very raw deal. Ultimately, I think their speech is protected by the First Amendment even though it did cause some hostility on campus–there was no report of physical violence. Per the article, their case was denied at every level of appeals and the federal court ruled favor of the University. Even though their lawyers cited Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969), which was a similar case involving the protest of the Vietnam War, the San Marcos 10 were left with no option but to accept their punishment. It is difficult to understand how Texas State University, formerly Southwest Texas State University, could ever take such a hard stance against student-led First Amendment activities. Thankfully, times have changed and I think the University has made great strides to broaden free speech on campus.
Hello, my name is Jose R and I am in your 11 am class. After listening to the podcast and reading the article, it’s truly insane to hear how the students were not allowed to return to school for the year and were denied at the every court level. It honestly kind of disgusts me as to how poorly they were treated and how times were at that time with the war going on. It makes me scared for a war to happen in the future because it seems like we have all these new laws in place to help with our right to protest but something tells me that people wil still find a way to punish you just for speaking your mind and fighting for what you believe in.
Hello my name is Thomas G and I am in your 3:30 pm class. This was my first time hearing about the San Marcos 10 and I really enjoyed what I learned. Student expression is very important to hold a safe and healthy campus and without our 1st amendment nothing would be able to be said.
I’m Reagan R. in the online section.
The San Marcos 10 stood up for what they believed in, even though it cost them a lot, like getting expelled. This protest left a big impact on Texas State, and it shows how students taking a stand can lead to change. Protests like these get people thinking and talking about what’s right and wrong, which can lead to more students getting involved. After listening to the NPR podcast, I learned more about how the timing of the protest mattered, especially right after 9/11 when people were grieving and upset. This helped change people’s feelings about the war. It’s similar to what's happening today with protests about the West Bank. Students now are also facing tough outcomes like getting arrested, but they still fight for what they believe in, just like the San Marcos 10 did back then.
Pierce G, 3:30 class: The story of the San Marcos 10 shows how deeply student activism and free speech are woven into the history of Texas State. It’s powerful to see how these students risked their academic futures to stand up for their beliefs, despite facing expulsion. Hearing their reflections fifty years later adds another layer, especially considering the political climate and heightened emotions post-9/11 during the 2001 interview. This history really highlights the ongoing importance of student voices on campus and the courage it takes to protest, even when the risks are high.
Hello, I am GC Harris in your 3:30 pm class and I just want to say that I think it’s extremely important that other students know more about this San Marcos 10 and do more things like they did. The San Marcos 10 exercised their rights of free speech in front of the horse statue at TXST. And because of this protest they most of them were punished even to being expelled. But they fought for what they believed in and had some actual backbone to stand on that belief which I believe people especially the younger generation should know and do more of.
Hello, This is Lily Frank from your 3:30 class!! I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 until this module. I think it is so interesting to see how it is all still relevant today and how much we students have been able to grow from then until now in how much our opinion matters. It goes to show that we have grown and been able to do right by the people that paved the way for students to have free speech. I think it is so impactful that people still protest at the Stallion Statue like they did back then. I think hearing their stories so long after is a reminder that it is all just as relevant now as it was then. The NPR podcast just reminds us how much protests are important for students and others alike to be able to voice their opinion to officials and their higher ups on campus.
Hello, my name is Jaynily Rodriguez and I am in your 11 a.m. Monday and Wednesday. It is fascinating to me to see the impact the San Marcos 10 had and still have to this day. Before learning about this I had no idea who these 10 students were. After learning about this and reading about it I find this really interesting The amount of power a group only 10 students had, their protest against the Vietnam War and the repercussions they faced because of it demonstrates the personal sacrifices that are often involved in standing up for ones beliefs. I think it is very important to learn about this because a lot of students may not be aware of how they are able to use their free speech rights. Although I did not agree with the fact that they got denied education just because of expressing their opinion, I think it was really brave of them that even though they knew what the consequences of them protesting and speaking up would be, they still did it, I think this serves as an inspiration for everybody. It is really impactful to see the impact this had not only on their personal lives but for the culture of Texas State as a whole.
Hello, my name is Caden Carpenter and I’m in your online class. The San Marcos 10 serves as a compelling reminder of the enduring spirit of student activism and the complexities surrounding protest in the face of institutional authority. This incident highlights how protests against significant political issues, such as the Vietnam War, can lead to severe repercussions for those involved. The suspension and expulsion of these students reflects the tension between individual expression and institutional control, a theme that resonates throughout history and continues to be relevant today. Listening to the NPR report from 2001, shortly after the 9/11 attacks, adds another layer to this discussion. The interview reveals how the context of national crisis can shift public perceptions of protest, often leading to a dichotomy between patriotism and dissent. The San Marcos 10’s experiences show that protests can be met with both condemnation and support, depending on the prevailing political climate. What stands out is the resilience of these students and their continued engagement with the university community, even decades later. Their return for the 50th anniversary of the protest not only honors their past actions but also serves as a reminder for current students to reflect on the importance of standing up for their beliefs, regardless of the potential consequences. In a time when political protests are again prominent on campuses, the legacy of the San Marcos 10 encourages us to consider the long history of dissent and the vital role it plays in shaping our society.
Hi my name is Katherine Rea and I am in your 11am class. I feel empowered by these 10 students after learning about who they were and what they did. I think it’s important, especially as students attending a public school in the US, to take advantage of our voices, even if it means unfair consequences. It is wrong that they had such harsh disciplinary action for expressing their freedom of speech during such an emotional time. These students, even veterans, were willing to risk their education to stand for what they believed was right and that is powerful and still remains impactful till this day. I’d like to believe I would have stayed after the three minutes were up but there’s another part of me that wouldn’t have been willing to risk being suspended.
Amelia B. - 11a.m. class
It’s hard not to sympathize with their cause, each person had a valid point to make about the war and a heartfelt reason for protesting. It was crazy to hear that David Bayless felt there was a similar feeling about support for the war after 9/11. By the time I was a senior in high school (almost 5 yrs after the 9/11 attack) I was terrified for all my friends that wanted to enlist of their own free will. Hadn’t they been listening to System of a Down?!?! I couldn’t understand past the thought of losing someone I knew personally in combat. I was lucky that everyone I knew that went overseas came back.
Luke F, and I'm in your 3:30 pm class. It's so interesting when diving into the stories of each of the San Marcos 10. How 10 people, who hadn't known each other beforehand can come together under a common reason and stick to their beliefs, even if there would be significant consequences. Interesting how many of the 10 had some form or connection to the Vietnam War (even being directly a part of it) were able to protest in a peaceful manner, even if other students surrounding them were less peaceful. These 10 people are a major part of the school's history and an excellent example of free speech being put to use, even if the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the school.
On a side note, I found it interesting how the school was known for being the "safest place to send your daughters", and that they were forced to remain in student housing till 21 years old or married. No way we would have the student housing space now-a-days for that lol
Hi, my name is Osmara V., and I am in your 11:00 am class. It was my first time hearing about the San Marcos 10, and this is an impactful action by our fellow Bobcats. It was interesting learning about how these students have never met each other and they decided to come together for one purpose to freely express what they thought about the Vietnam War. I do believe that it is very relevant to this day since this paved the way for students to stand up for what they believe in, and this is a remarkable piece of history on our campus that needs to be talked about more often.
Hi my name is Maddi Farmer and I am in your online class. This blog post was very interesting to me because I had never heard about the San Marcos 10. After reading the University Star and listening to the report, I felt inspired by this group of students and the way that they used their voice. Personally, I think that the consequences they faced were unfair. As a student myself, I find it important to speak up for what you beleive in and take advantage of your right to freedom of speech.
Hi, my name is Lauren R. I'm in the 11 am class. Learning about the San Marcos 10 was fascinating and I'm genuinely surprised I've never heard about them before. However, the thing that shocked me the most when reading the article was finding out that in 1969, apparently women had to stay on campus until they turned 21 or got married? That's wild to me.
Christian Mendoza, 3:30 p.m.
It is interesting to hear about this as it was my first time reading about the San Marcos 10. I think is is inspiring to read about the 10 students who stayed and used their voices to spread their beliefs even with the imposed consequences. It was moving to read about their different perspectives on the protest and the beauty of the strangers uniting for the same cause.
I find it disheartening that Texas State expelled these students as well as the denial of admission to any Texas university for a year. It's also sad to read that their cases were denied at every appeals level. The federal court also sided with the university even though Tinker v. Des Moines was brought in by the 10's lawyers which upheld freedom of speech at public schools. Seems to meet the justice system failed them during this time.
Hi everyone, my name is Maite N. and I am in the 3:30 p.m. class. Learning about each of the San Marcos 10 and learning a brief reasoning as to what caused them to remain at the protest after the three-minute warning expired was very interesting.
It seemed that the vast number of them had parents who maybe did not explicitly agree with their cause, but supported the right to protest and the fact that their children were peacefully standing up for what they believed in.
I was surprised to learn that following the suspension of the students, Tinker v. Des Moines’ precedent was not cited in the ruling of the 10. After learning about the many USSC court cases we have covered in this class, I was not surprised that Justice Douglas voted to review their case.
Though ‘The Stallions’ are a free speech area on campus and now do not have time restrictions as to when you can protest there, it was interesting to learn how different it was there 50 years ago. The university restricted the free speech rights of students, for example the 5-7 p.m. Old Main free speech area that Annie Burleson said, “no one ever went to.” Though Tinker ruled in favor of high school students earlier in the same year, it is so surprising that a similar ruling did not take place for adult students at university.
Hi my name is Gracie Golleher I’m in the 11am class. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 before, and I was very intrigued. I found it very inspiring how the students used their voice to stand up for what they believed.
Hello I am Makenzie G I am in the 3:30 pm class. After listening to the NPR report and reading the San Marcos 10 feature on the University Star. I was able to gather that the San Marcos 10 was a group that left a terminus impact that inspires many people to stand up for what they believe in regardless to the consequences. The impact that 9/11 has on this is an immense result in activism that allows people to protest and fight for what they believe in.
Hello, my name is Thomas Terry and I am in the online class. It’s very disheartening that this is my first time hearing about this- even more so because I work in the school media. I wholeheartedly support their efforts and staunchly oppose the expulsion of these individuals from the university.
Hello my name is Perri Mason and i am in the 11am class. I find it very inspiring that people stand up for what they believe in. They didn't care about the consequences and just decided to fight for what they believe.
Hello, my name is Jack Brown in your 11:00 am class. Hearing from the protestors gave new perspectives I had not thought of. One of the men in the interview said, "if you're not 100% on the war effort, you will get backlash." I think that's a powerful quote considering the times we live in now. Where America has done a 180 in that we'd prefer no war. It was refreshing to hear the story of the protestors and very relevant.
Hi, my name is Mikenna Pugh, and I am in the 3:30 class. I think the San Marcos 10 should be discussed more often amongst students and faculty. What they did was inspiring and shows others that sometimes standing up for yourself or your beliefs outweighs the possible negative outcomes.
Hi, my name is Rubi G., and I'm in the online class. After reading the University Star article and listening to the NPR audio, I learned that on November 13, 1969, a group of students at Texas State University gathered near the Fighting Stallions statue to peacefully protest the Vietnam War, wearing black armbands. Despite being warned by Dean Floyd Martine to disperse within three minutes or face suspension, ten students refused to leave. They later became known as the San Marcos 10.
Among them was David Bayless, a disillusioned Vietnam veteran who felt betrayed by his country after realizing that many lives had been lost due to government lies.
I believe that today, the Fighting Stallions statue stands as a symbol of free speech, honoring the courage of the San Marcos 10 and their lasting legacy of student activism at the university.
Ashelyn Phelan, 11 AM Class
Unfortunately, the San Marcos 10 never really had a chance because of the strong opinions in favor of the Vietnam War. Though Tinker v. Des Moines was cited in this case, the court did not seem to treat this case in a similar manner. I am glad that the stallions statues exist now on the Texas State campus. We as students deserve a chance to express ourselves without the fear of being suspended and barred from attending any other university
Lauren Ma. 3:30 p.m. class: I was partly surprised and unsurprised when reading and listening to the story of the San Marcos 10. In particular, I was surprised at how different each one of their reasons was for joining the protest and for staying in the article. In the NPR interview, I could understand why they would be in opposition of the war proceeding 9/11. Additionally, I was surprised that TXST allowed Bayless to complete his degree but wouldn't let him attend graduation. I suppose they were worried he would hold another silent protest as he walked lol.
Overall, I appreciated how their actions, words, and tones were aligned: all peaceful. In recent history, I find it interesting that more often than not I find everyone being emphatic and angered on both sides of the aisle, even when peace is being preached. They seemed more approachable and understanding when it comes to differing views on a situation than many do today.
^Lauren Ma. here, I am actually in your 11 a.m. class.
My name is Candice Gilmore and I am in your 11 a.m. M/W class. After reviewing both pieces of media, I was in awe of their fearlessness towards the faculty. I grew up hearing about the Vietnam war and the reactions from Americans, but to see 10 individuals from a community I take pride in standing up for a cause in a similar fashion I see nowadays was breathtaking. I wish more people within this community and Texas in general knew about this event.
Hi my name is Giuliana Fantry, and I am in the 11am class. In my opinion, what the 10 students did was very inspirational. They were willing to risk course credit and suspension to stand up for what they believed in. It's saddening to know they ended up getting suspended for engaging in a nonviolent protest, and it's even more surprising that it happened at Texas State University. All the students wanted to do was express their rights to freedom of speech in a non-violent way, which unfortunately resulted in the suspension of all 10 students. I don't think there should be penalties for peaceful protesting, but I understand why the university chose to interfere with the protest. From their perspective, this peaceful protest could have led to a more violent protest, and the university just wanted to protect the students. All in all, these students showed bravery and made a great impact.
Hi I'm Izzy Tousha and I'm in your 11 AM class. When i read this article, it surprised me to much that they ruled against the San Marcos 10, rather than for them, purely because they were just exercising their right to protest and right of free speech. I think it is so inspiring how they stood their ground in what they believed in, which reminds me of the protests against the wars that are currently happening, where people stand their ground and even though it is a peaceful protest, still get arrested.
Hi Im Nasira Gaskins, Im in your 11 am class. When I read through this article about the San Marcos 10 in my opinion it definitely was a core moment in time and inspirational. It was sad to see the 10 students apart of the university get suspend and get credits taken away from them all for them being in a non-violent protest. They was willing to rest what they had going for them at Texas State for this one protest that they didn't know would end the way that it did. It did surprise me that it happened at the university that I currently get my education from but I know in the end that the University as a whole most likely wanted to keep each individual safe from the outrush that was happening so it didn't lead to anything more with the protest but it's a stab in the back because all the students wanted to do was protest non-violently and to use their free speech without any violence.
Hi, Im Kannon W in your online class. Being from San Marcos, I was surprised I had never heard of the San Marcos 10. I am glad that I know now considering how much of an impact it had on this university. After reading the article and listing to the interview, I just found it interesting how time dictates the way we look at events and activism. During the Vietnam war the protestors were thought to be dangerous but at the 50 year anniversary, they are thought to be heros. Also listening to how the interview talked about 9/11 compared to how people speak about it now, over 20 years later is super interesting.
Genavive Petrie MW 11AM
I tink that the San Marcos 10 deserved the same treatment as the Tinker v. De Moines case. I think it's honorable that they were willing to risk their education to protest, and the fact thay two were veteran's and another had connection to the military in Vietnam shows why they were so passionate about the cause. I enjoyed and understand the bitterness Holman continues to have towards the university by throwing a rock at Old Main every morning. It frustrates me that institutions intimidate students for exercising peaceful protest and will punish them for standing for a message of peace. At the end of the day they are being supported by the government, and the government is being supported by exploitation and imperialism. In the same sense I am also glad to hear the students hold their anti-war stance under pressure again. Learning that they both in life practice helping their community by being teachers and human resource employees shows their consistancyand genuine concern for the people around them.
Hanna P: Online
I want to start off by saying that as a student on our debate team, I know full well about Southwest Texas State's history of activism, and I will always do my best to uphold the reputation, sacrifices, and impact that the San Marcos 10 held on our campus. However, it was so interesting to hear about their actions from their own personal perspectives. This interview really brought to life their feelings and highlighted them as humans, and not just campus legends. Especially considering the event's close proximity to 9/11, it really shows how unfair the standard for protest was for them, and how impactful events can be to learn about.
Hi, I'm Jake Perdue from your 3:30 class, and my first reaction to the article was surprising, seeing how these students were calling for peace and not degrading America or the campus, yet they were still told to disperse or face consequences regarding their education. However, seeing the freedoms that are allowed on campus today, I see it as progress now, those protesters sacrificed their education for the future of free speech on campus.
My name is Kat Jaime from MW 11:00am. I had no idea the San Marcos 10 was a thing until now. I think it is interesting to see how protests or activists are still apparent at Texas State. Seeing how they were suspended or expelled who a protest that didn't result in violence seems unreasonable now. The students being allowed to come back to protest in 2019 displays how much TXST and society has progressed in peaceful protesting, and how much it is accepted now.
Hi, I am Gina Deserio in your online class, I found it crazy that they ruled against the San Marcos 10 just because they were exercising they're own rights but very inspiring that they stood their ground and what they believed in.
Hi, I am Lexi Davila from your MW 11AM class. I was not aware of the San Marcos 10 and was interested in reading about it and learning more info. I found it in inspiring that they stood up for what they believed in and held their beliefs strongly. I do think that this is something that should be talked about more often, first of all, to show students do have a voice and a right. Second, to sow how far Texas State has come.
Abigail Tuttle from your 11 am MW class. I actually have never heard of the San Marcos 10 before, but now I am so glad I have. I think it was such a powerful statement. And I really enjoyed hearing about their reasonings, as well as how their parents reacted. It's nice to know that students have been doing things like this for so long, and it is just a continuing reminder of the importance of speaking out. Activism like this is what shapes history. It was disheartening to hear about how their classes from that whole year got revoked, and how they couldn't even apply to another Texas university for a year after their suspensions.
Hello, my name is Ana C. and I'm in the 3:30PM class. I'm so glad The San Marcos 10 were mentioned in this course! I will always admire those who are brave enough to stand up for what is right and exercise their First Amendment right to protest. It's crazy to see history repeat itself in a way, as we saw with the Palestine campouts all over the country. The San Marcos 10 deserve all the honor for what they resiliently did that day, despite the backlash from both authoritative figures and their fellow students. They are now the ones that are remembered as the few who stood on the right side of history here in San Marcos. It's even more inspiring that they never had any regrets, and I hope our student body and community follows their example. Peace.
My name is Kelsy Trejo (11am, in-person) and as I was reading about the San Marcos 10, I was utterly shocked a school I believe is so inclusive can once restrict a student's rights in a very harsh way. I feel the culture of TXST and their inclusivity and rights for students has changed as well as laws and protocol for situations over time. The SM 10 were in a different era, where rebellion was big and something officials and persons of leadership were not fully trained in. The air was different during the time of the SM10 and restrictiveness was very heavily used. Currently, student administration have been brought up to safely give the students the right to protest while to disturbing their fellow classmates who wish to continue school. It’s a different era altogether, where student rights have evolved and ideally flourished over time.
My name is Colleen Krim, I am in the 3:30-4:50 M/W lecture. When I read the San Marcos 10 I was shocked by the lack of allowed beliefs that varied from the prominet ones at that time. A time where peaceful protest where no violence , injuries or vulgarity was not allowed , a protest to protect the lives of Americans from violence. Despite ones views on the situation everyone has the right to fight for their beliefs in a respectful way as stated in the constitution, It really makes me thankful we are now in an ever changing time that (somewhat) allows the expression of their views in a peaceful way.
Peyton Bayne 3:30p.m class.
Hearing the San Marcos 10s story is very emotional imagining them see history repeat itself when the Global War on Terrorism started after 9/11. I can only imagine the worry they felt for young students with the chance of history repeating itself. Even with "Tinker v. Des Moines" they weren't able to appeal the case. Because 9/11 has been described to me as totally unfathomable, and unlike anything ever before.
Tyshon Joseph 3:30 PM Class, After reading the article and listening to the podcast its crazy to me how serious the school handled the situation, especially when no one was being hurt. After hearing their stories I truly respect the San Marcos 10 for the risk they tool because that action caused a reaction for years to come.
Jon Bronstein 3:30 PM class, The San Marcos 10 are very brave for what they did and standing up for what they believe in is always admirable. I share the sentiment of being shocked at the schools handling of the situation. They even gave the school a chance to take back the suspension but after all that they still had to take the legal route.
Hi, I'm Lucia Roquebert Martinez from your 11am class.
Before reading the article and listening to the podcast, I had no idea about the San Marcos 10. It was shocking to learn that even though they were using their rights to the First Amendment in the Stallion Statue, which is a free speech zone, and displaying peaceful protesting, they were penalized.
It's crazy to read that their consequence was getting banned from enrolling at Texas State for a year after being suspended. And shocking to learn that even though the case of Tinker v. Des Moines (that allows freedom of speech within public schools) was used by lawyers in defense of the San Marcos 10's, they still lost the case.
Kamren W. Online class.
It's truly inspiring to see students take action and stand up for their beliefs, especially when they face serious consequences. I hadn’t heard of the San Marcos 10 before, and I find it shocking that they faced such severe repercussions, like being unable to walk at graduation after all their hard work and being barred from enrollment. This really makes me reflect on the privileges I have as a student and how fortunate I am to feel safe expressing my opinions.
Jaelin Martin Online Class.
I learned something new through this post because I had never heard about the San Marcos 10 prior to reading the University Star article. I think that the San Marcos 10 were a very brave group and it's unfortunate that they had to take legal action.
It is amazing that with threats, students stayed and held their ground. They knew they were peacefully protesting something they believed in. It is also refreshing to see that many of the students understood why people left, but it is also important to know that they had the right to be there. They stood for something bigger than themselves. Protesting did not mean they were against the U.S. it just meant that they knew in their bodies that they didn't like what was going on. I had never heard of the San Marcos 10 before, but I am glad that times have changed.
Sophia Colston, Monday and Wednesday at 3:20-4:50
Andrew M, 3:30-4:50 M/W class. I found it interesting how in the University Star paper, it details that every protestor was a patriot in their own right and that they all had very valid reasons to protest the war despite the backlash and reactions from peers and family in some cases. It also surprised me that they were expecting similar reactions to the war on terrorism after the events of 9/11.
Hello, my name is Calista Marquez I am in the online class! I found this very interesting how despite the pressure they were receiving these students held their own and protested for a cause that was relevant to them. I had actually never heard of the San Marcos 10 but I found it so interesting to learn about them
Hello! My name is Katherine Andrews, and I'm in the 3:30-4:50 M/W class. I thought it was especially interesting that the dean found it acceptable to punish the students for just the possibility of an interruption. We've discussed in class the trend of students having their speech increasingly restricted as the years pass; the San Marcos 10 show that despite recent rulings that limit students' speech, students today do have more freedom of speech in some circumstances.
Hi my name is Sage Stephenson & I’m in your Online class. I found the reading and broadcast very interesting. I feel privileged that say that people being punished for sharing opposing views on situations is not common place in my day and age. I understand this type of situation is not a first time occurrence, but knowing it happened on my campus was startling. The fact that students were suspended for engaging in a peaceful protest on a campus where we are taught to discover ourselves & what we believe in hurts my heart deeply.
Hi, my name is Ashlyn B, and I am in your online class. I have never heard about this protest before and I definitely found it interesting. I don’t understand why these students faced such severe consequences just for standing up for what they believed in, especially since they were being peaceful. I found these students inspiring for not backing down and honoring themselves/family members.
Great point Brooklyn! Hello, my name is Danielle Ferguson and I am in the M/W 3:30p class. I am in awe that getting kicked out of school was not a major deal for them. This shows me that they are really passionate about their protest. I think the work of the San Marcos 10 acts as an inspirational act in history that has the potential to inspire students in the future
Hello, my name is Danielle Ferguson and I am in the M/W 3:30p class. I am in awe that getting kicked out of school was not a major deal for them. This shows me that they are really passionate about their protest. I think the work of the San Marcos 10 acts as an inspirational act in history that has the potential to inspire students in the future
Hello, my name is Howell (Wells) Gwin and I am in your 11am class section. I had actually heard of the San Marcos 10 before this class, I saw a book about it in a store a couple years ago then did some research of my own afterwards. I see similarities to the reaction of the anti-Vietnam war protests 50+ years ago as I do to the anti-Israel protests of the last year. The Vietnam protesters were labeled "anti-American" while the Israel protesters are being labeled "anti-Semitic." Both labels aren't true and are just being thrown out to discredit the protesters. I also so similarities to the police reaction, the protests are always peaceful until the police show up and start to cause violence, like in the Kent State massacre in 1970 and the excessive use of force against protesters protesting Israel over the last year.
My name is Tom Salmeron-Garcia I’m part of the MW 3:30 class. Prior to taking this class I never knew about the San Marcos 10. It’s astonishing to see how cruel students were treated just for exercising their 1st Amendment right. I wonder if anyone even knew that one of the 10 students actually served in Vietnam. Why did no one take his opinion in consideration? It’s a shame that our university took that approach but I’m glad that we have the city and University Star recognizing the injustice that was done to the innocent students.
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